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Old 02-17-2016, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by curly
Yeah that's what most use for the timing light. If you're really JDM you'll have a tiny cap that clips over it.

For the record switching 12v is fine, but too much on/off might blow the switch or fuse, which will really only leave you on waste gate, this isn't your fuel pump or anything.
Yeah, that is what I used for setting time as well, I put a spade connector on it so I can just quickly disconnect it if I have to run my timing light. It had the blue cap on it at one point but I have since lost it. :(

Thanks for the knowledge, I wish I was as electrically savvy as I am mechanically. Car pulls great on 13psi btw, very happy overall with this turbo/kit.
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Finally closed on our house so now I get more time to wrench on the car. For the past 2 years I have borrowed garage space and was only able to really work on the car during the weekends. Now I get to work on some more long term modifications. Aero modifications, probably a single stage paint or wrap job, and some welding work. Really looking forward to try some things on this car.

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Nice garage!!
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Thanks man. Need to make some bench space and start moving my tools into it. Not really looking forward to that process. Probably going to take it on this weekend. Car is going to take a back seat for awhile since it's running pretty well and autocross is about to start up.
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Been a bit slow the past month or so with the house and the car running pretty good. Some light tuning here and there but mostly just looking forward to racing the car this season. I did pick up something recently that I plan on making a video for. This is the start of converting the car to E85.

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Picked up some Avanti S1 Storms in a 15x9 and some Rival S 225/45/15s. Wow what a difference the extra tire made. The difference is stopping power was pretty apparent as I was really early on the brakes almost everywhere. Ended up top 10 raw time and 4th fastest street tire car out. I love these Rivals. I would have gone with an re71 if they made them in a 225 but I think these are just as fast as an re71 in a 205. Huge difference in launching the car as well. My old Toyo R1Rs I couldn't launch past 3k or I would just roast them. I tried that with the Rivals and just bogged off the line. My region is hosting a nationals tour at Bristol Motor Speedway in a few weeks and I am really excited to see how I do against some of the competition.

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Found a bit of time to make a small heat shield on the car. Was also running into a very strange lean condition driving the car. My target AFRs are a bit rich and I was seeing 12.1: climbing up to 16:1 above 4500 RPM and 10 PSI. It just out of nowhere started to happen. So I did a fresh air calibration on my LC-2 and that still didn't change much except my doubt on the sensor failing. So I decided to change the fuel filter and, bingo, AFRs on target. Love this LC-2 and being able to calibrate it. I would have my doubts in other units that were calibration free.

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So I thought I knew how a PCV system worked until I joined this forum. I can't believe how massive the topic seems to be and how argued it is. So with that out of the way...

Here is my inexpensive catch can that I ripped off from this guy, and then found others doing the same thing on here. Overall super simple and very inexpensive. The only real issue with it seems to be getting the petcock to close since it's designed to close under pressure and it will be seeing vacuum. I've got a small motorcycle petcock that I am probably going to use in the future but for now a small washer inside keeps the seal at all times until a better solution can be found.



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My region was host to the SCCA match tour at Bristol Motor Speedway this weekend. The class I run doesn't have any national PAX time so it was set up as a local event as well. The cars in SSM,SM/SMF and XP were pretty crazy. I really have no desire to participate at that level so I will probably start getting the car up to safety for some track time. The event was really enjoyable and the pace was extremely quick for the amount of cars we had.






















I also got to see how well my catch can setup was working. This was after 150 miles and 6 autocross runs. Honestly it smelt pretty heavily of fuel so I am wondering if I need a check valve in the return hose to the intake manifold. My oil doesn't smell like it's contaminated with fuel when I open the valve cover fill port or dip stick. Just assume it's some fuel being forced in under boost.





The head of TECH was a guy I've been racing with for a while, so during other run heats he let me get on the scales.



All sorts of cutting wheel mods, no passenger seat, no hardtop or window glass, and 3/4 tank of fuel. Cross weights are a bit off from the scales being on a slight incline.
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So the Bristol event made me realize a few things.

1. I am never going to compete at this high of a level.
2. Considering 1 I am now going to try and prep up the car for some HPDE and some street miles.

With that I think my car needs to start with a small bit of aero modifications.

First I plan to build a spoiler and see how that balances the car. Trying different AOA and seeing how it feels or if any results come from it. BlackBird Fabworx sells a very nice one for around $300. It has also been proven by a few people on their local tracks. I've read one guy credit the spoiler to a 3 second difference in lap times over a 1:20s course.. Not sure how legitimate that claim is but other stories also come up with some significant gains. Not one to spend copious amounts of money I decided to make my own. I am already about $50 into materials but I bought enough to build 2 since I'm sure I'll mess something up.

So here is where I am currently at.

The proof of concept with some scrap aluminum stock I had.


Mock up of the larger version using the same turn buckel (Home Depot, claimed 150lbs load capable) and some 1.5 x 1.5 x 1/8th inch aluminum L stock.




About 18 inch height cardboard. Probably going to go about 14 inches with the poly-carbonate.


Here is the final version, now 2 more to go. It's a lot easier when you can use the original as a template but it's still pretty time consuming.


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Progress continues. Now is the time to get the poly-carbonate for it. I want to keep around 2 inches of space around the outside of the supports. I am hoping that 3/16 thickness will be adequate for the job. Really happy with the final product but mounting is going to be tricky. I am thinking about using some blind rivets (nutserts) in the trunk for ease of install. I think some M6 inserts will be fine for strength...and that's the largest manderal I have. lol







Lowest AOA
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Still some minor finish work to do on it but pretty happy overall. I am using 1/8th Lexan right now and plan to transfer the template over to another sheet of 1/4" that I picked up. This is about the max AoA I can achieve with the current design. I picked up a ton of Lexan from a dude out in the boonies on Craigslist, so I will have plenty of material to play around with.

The mounting was a bit tricky and I would have liked to get it further back. I think the next one will be 8 to 10 runners with 12-14 inch supports. I may need better hardware for that though.







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Went to the local 1/8th mile track a couple weeks ago. I set up launch control, kinda, found some strange bugs within my wiring harness that I need to track down but, I can still get it to work as long as I hit my lights on, odd. The best time I was able to run was a 9.3@76mph. The car has more in it for sure but it being an autocross car I don't want to set up the boost controller for max torque and have it set up to feed power more like a naturally aspirated motor. I find the car much easier to drive fast that way. No in car video but I did have my wife shoot a run with my buddies bolt on STU 350Z.


I also got to test out my spoiler this weekend over a 2 day event. I didn't change anything from Bristol last month except the spoiler and launch control. I ended up winning my class by .8 of a second and was top 5 in RAW time. The car was absolutely ******* flying. I had people asking me all sorts of questions about the spoiler and wanting a ride. I was the second fastest car on street tires and only differed from the full STX prep FRS by .057 seconds. He is also racing PRO and has been autocrossing for over 10 years. I am sure my car has more in it with a more seasoned driver. I want to do a few other aero mods but I may wait until the off season since the car feels so neutral right now and it's winning.

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Spent the morning building a shift boot. Did this very inexpensively.

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Another fun time with Miata's at the Gap. Ended up being the lead this time with nothing fun to chase. :(

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Started to get some bends and marks on my turbo water inlet fitting from the engine moving so much in the engine bay. I can't really justify nice supermiata mounts or the drop mounts offered by Blackbird Fabworx so I went with an inexpensive engine damper option. It's cheap and may help my mounts last longer or, at the very least, keep my engine from hitting the engine chassis.


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I have some cheap-ish mounts in the works, stay tuned. Did you ever get those coils mounted? We have a brackets and wire for those now.

I need to get a duckbill made for mine, assuming it doesn't unbalance the car as I cant run a splitter. But I see you don't so...
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Originally Posted by hi_im_sean
I have some cheap-ish mounts in the works, stay tuned. Did you ever get those coils mounted? We have a brackets and wire for those now.

I need to get a duckbill made for mine, assuming it doesn't unbalance the car as I cant run a splitter. But I see you don't so...
I haven't done the coils yet. I was going to do them with my injectors and fuel pump for E85. I just want to do it all at once during the off season. Right now the car is winning and easy to drive. I don't want to upset it, lol.

Already have the bracket you all are offering, but the wiring I may be interested in. I don't see them listed on the website, can you link me more details?

The spoiler didn't unbalance the car for autocross and high 3rd gear mountain runs but some tracks it could if the speeds are were high enough, the crazy amounts of drag at high AoA would limit top speed for sure. I also don't run a rear bar, largest RB front bar on a 440/300 Bilstein HD setup. The car is about as budget as you can get while still being competitive on street tires.


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saw first post of your thread and immediately hated you. there are very few guys I hate more than that rx7 guy

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then I kept reading. and you're actually doing things right. so all is well again and you get a +cat
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Originally Posted by 90civichhb
I haven't done the coils yet. I was going to do them with my injectors and fuel pump for E85. I just want to do it all at once during the off season. Right now the car is winning and easy to drive. I don't want to upset it, lol.

Already have the bracket you all are offering, but the wiring I may be interested in. I don't see them listed on the website, can you link me more details?

The spoiler didn't unbalance the car for autocross and high 3rd gear mountain runs but some tracks it could if the speeds are were high enough, the crazy amounts of drag at high AoA would limit top speed for sure. I also don't run a rear bar, largest RB front bar on a 440/300 Bilstein HD setup. The car is about as budget as you can get while still being competitive on street tires.


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I thought you might have had the bracket already, couldn't remember. Ignition wires, not to be confused with harness. Theres too many variations in how people install them and between each chassis, but I suppose I can come up with some sort of 4 coil pigtail, hmmmmm....

In any case I see you have the stock LS2 truck harness. There is a certain sort of oragami you can perform on that harness to make it fit our bracket without cutting it apart.


Im sure these picture will provide you, in great detail, everything you need to know about the folding process
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