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Old 08-10-2014, 12:33 PM
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That video was fantastic.

Also, oil pressure gauge.
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I enjoyed watching your TDI sportwagen vids too. Woot.
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Originally Posted by turbofan
I enjoyed watching your TDI sportwagen vids too. Woot.
I wish the Miata sounded like my Jetta. The 3" exhaust on my TDI has the perfect sound to it. Confuses the hell out of everyone when they see it coming from a Jetta.
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That feeling when you get all the crap in your garage stowed away and outta the way. I need to go through it all one of these days and start a for sale thread.

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Your car gave me a boner. The size of your garage made me ***.......
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Originally Posted by ScottyP3821
Your car gave me a boner. The size of your garage made me ***.......
At one point I had 2 Miata shells and all the parts from the cars in the garage and I could still fit my Jetta inside. If I could fit a lift in it I'd *** as well.
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You guys just talking about it made me.........

.....well, you know

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Originally Posted by 18psi
You guys just talking about it made me.........

.....well, you know

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Originally Posted by ScottyP3821
Your car gave me a boner. The size of your garage made me ***.......
A small object always makes the hole look bigger.


Garage looks nice and clean as I would only expect your OCD to allow.
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I detect a distinct lack of a female. I only have 1 room in the house . . . the garage . . . and I have to fight for it everyday.
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Originally Posted by ofspunk7
A small object always makes the hole look bigger.
Yeah I was giving panorama mode a try on my S4. It does a pretty good job stitching the photos together.

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I detect a distinct lack of a female. I only have 1 room in the house . . . the garage . . . and I have to fight for it everyday.


Sadly between the car, the business, and my insomnia....I can't muster the energy to put an effort towards wasting more money on attracting the fairer sex.
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On a more serious note. What is the easiest/quickest way to change a fuel map for a much higher altitude?

The drive between St George and Cedar City is a 3,200ft of elevation gained. The car starts running really lean at 6k feet and my whole VEAL map gets pretty messed up. Starting the car up I'm all of a sudden idling at 16.7 instead of being stoic.

Not sure how to load a new map or if I need to apply a different tune with settings applicable to 6k elevation.
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You have toset up the baro correction. Please post your actual baro table... Wait, does your MS3 have 2 independent sensors?

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Originally Posted by Jeffbucc
On a more serious note. What is the easiest/quickest way to change a fuel map for a much higher altitude?

The drive between St George and Cedar City is a 3,200ft of elevation gained. The car starts running really lean at 6k feet and my whole VEAL map gets pretty messed up. Starting the car up I'm all of a sudden idling at 16.7 instead of being stoic.

Not sure how to load a new map or if I need to apply a different tune with settings applicable to 6k elevation.
You could look into what I am currently researching for my MS3 setup. Switchable tables. You can run them a number of different ways. I plan to run a manual switch on my setup to swap the tables in the ECU. I plan to use it as a anti-theft device (hidden switch) but the concept should work for you to swap tables.

I found this LINK but I am trying to gather up more details about the whole process. It is a start... but I wish I could deliver a more complete answer for you (still researching).
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Originally Posted by Zaphod
You have toset up the baro correction. Please post your actual baro table... Wait, does your MS3 have 2 independent sensors?
I thought I read somewhere that the MS3 will recalibrate the baro when the engine is restarted/ECU is powercycled, thus not needing multiple baro sensors? Don't quote me on that though
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Old 08-13-2014, 11:39 AM
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I still don't understand why you'd need baro correction if you're using a MAP at the manifold anyways.
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Old 08-13-2014, 05:36 PM
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I am dealing with that same issue when traveling from Cedar to St George and back as well. I have one of Revs MS2's and I installed the mapdaddy with two sensors, so I would have a second sensor for outside air pressure

Ive checked all my soldering joints and I made sure everything is in the correct place, but no matter what I do, when I change settings to use it, it just reads outside air pressure at 100 constantly and makes car run like crap.

Air pressure in cedar is around 82-83, and was around 96 last time i was in St George.

Heading down is not much of an issue, but when I travel back uphill though, I gain some speed and have it do a reboot on the road, maybe twice on the way up.
(neutral, turn car off, wait a bit to make sure engine has stopped, turn car on to get new "initial" reading, turn back on, match revs) It is annoying as hell, I want to get the other sensor working.


I still don't understand why you'd need baro correction if you're using a MAP at the manifold anyways.
It samples the air pressure when you start for a base reading, at Cedar city at about 5600 ft air pressure is 83 kPa, if you go to the ocean, where it is 101 kPa, it compensates by adding more fuel based on the initial reading. When you drive and your altitude changes by about 4000 ft within an hour it makes the car run like crap because it is either putting too much fuel or not enough because it thinks the outside air pressure is the same as where you cranked the car
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What I think he's trying to say is there's more to pressure than just pressure.
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Its to compensate for density changes in the air that's being pressurized
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Well, sure. Kinda?

I had the MSM up to 12k feet last year. Yes, it ran a little weird, but we're talking elevation where the car was only pulling 15-16" of vacuum on full decel.

What i'm not braining is why it matters. You're measuring what's going on in the manifold, not what's going on outside of the car. Air density may change outside of the car, but does that really matter? Wouldn't less air just mean less pressure means less map reading?

Boost means more air in a given space = more dense, yes?

If there's somehow less air being put into the motor at a given kPa, wouldn't the car actually run RICH, not lean?

I'm probably missing something big. Or i am teh smrts?
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Old 08-13-2014, 06:07 PM
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As I read on another forum while reasearching this a litttle,

A turbo brings you xx PSI above the pressure of the environment. If the pressure of the environment is lower to start with, the absolute pressure after the turbo will be too.
I too am confused on why the car runs lean at a higher altitude. In my brain it only makes sense that it would run more rich, rather than an almost full 2 point afr change towards lean.

Weird thing is that even after cycling my key on and off it wouldn't change the initial Baro reading.

Need to do some more reading on this.
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