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Old 02-13-2015, 06:27 PM
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He may actually be limited by injector size. IIRC he and I are on the same 650cc injectors. Take that 375hp with a BSFC of .60 and .80 DC on 4 injectors and you are looking at required 743cc worth of fuel. The 60psi base pressure in the NB puts him at 763.39cc for actual injector size. So if you believe the RC calculator, its completely feasible that he did in fact run out of injector.

The numbers listed are optimal, obviously not taking into account plumbing losses and such. I'd have to dig through the thread and figure out if he went boost reference on the FPR or if he stuck with the stock system, because that will have a significant effect on things as well.

Either way, 375 is absolutely nothing to sneeze at
But with an NB the 60psi base pressure turns into 34psi differential pressure at 26psi of boost. Guessing theres a manifold referenced fpr in there. Or he's secretly corkey bell.
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Old 02-13-2015, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Leafy
But with an NB the 60psi base pressure turns into 34psi differential pressure at 26psi of boost. Guessing theres a manifold referenced fpr in there. Or he's secretly corkey bell.


This was at 22-23PSI from glancing at the gauge. I will have to check the log to get the exact amount of boost. I have a Walbro 255HP fuel pump and FIC 650cc injectors.
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Originally Posted by 99mx5


This was at 22-23PSI from glancing at the gauge. I will have to check the log to get the exact amount of boost. I have a Walbro 255HP fuel pump and FIC 650cc injectors.
Is the rest of the fuel system stock, or boost referenced AFPR?
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The rest of the fuel system is stock.

I just found this video online.

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Originally Posted by 99mx5
The rest of the fuel system is stock.
So what you are saying is... I don't need to worry about setting up a return and a referenced FPR? I'm running the same FIC 650 injectors and a 255LPH pump (DW200 in my case.) This will simplify my fuel system quite a bit.

Also, I know you said Magnaflow muffler and resonator, do you happen to have PNs around somewhere? That thing sounds amazing

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Damn son. I'm getting really excited to get mine on the dyno once everything is in place.

Anyone care to explain to me why power jumps so sharply at 4200 rpm? I'm guessing peak boost being held by the EBC?

What timing wheel do you have? Maybe timing jumping around also holding you back?
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Nicely done! Congrats.
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Originally Posted by Jeffbucc
Damn son. I'm getting really excited to get mine on the dyno once everything is in place.

Anyone care to explain to me why power jumps so sharply at 4200 rpm? I'm guessing peak boost being held by the EBC?

What timing wheel do you have? Maybe timing jumping around also holding you back?
I have the stock timing wheel. I wanted to use the OEM 36-1 toothed wheel, but I don't have a spare cam gear to cut the intake sensor triggers.
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Here is the graph produced by the BW Matchbot based on the RPM and PSI converted from kPa to PSI from the log.



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Wait, what's up with the slow spool?

And why are you getting 250*F coolant temps?!??!

TPS is also reading 114% max, time to calibrate.
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He's at elevation
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Originally Posted by 18psi
He's at elevation
Like, 4,000ft worth of it. I can't wait to see what mine does at sea level

Ari, props for making the plot. Also, did you hit the drop down to change the turbo and see where the plot landed on a 6758?
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I found that I could "stretch" the graph in megalog viewer to get more exact values. The RPM - kPa - PSI values from the log are as follows:

EDIT: THESE VALUES WERE INCORRECT. SEE POST #581 FOR UPDATED GRAPHS https://www.miataturbo.net/build-thr...0/#post1206424

Red is the incorrect value. Apologies for the error.
2000 - 50.1 - 7.26 -7.43
3000 - 110.5 - 16.02 1.33
4000 - 165 - 23.93 9.24
5000 - 221.5 - 32.12 17.43
6000 - 233.6 - 33.88 19.18
7000 - 220 - 31.90 17.21

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congrats, good job!
I'm pretty jelly, coudn't imagine what 375 whp are
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Glad to know that you can run off of the compressor map on those EFR's and not have a drastic dip in the flow! Excited!
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Originally Posted by 99mx5
I found that I could "stretch" the graph in megalog viewer to get more exact values. The RPM - kPa - PSI values from the log are as follows:

2000 - 50.1 - 7.26
3000 - 110.5 - 16.02
4000 - 165 - 23.93
5000 - 221.5 - 32.12
6000 - 233.6 - 33.88
7000 - 220 - 31.90
The kPa values from the log are absolute pressure numbers, not boost.

So, 110 = 0.1bar = 1.4psi, 220 = 1.2bar = 17.4psi, etc.
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