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Old 01-12-2011, 12:23 AM
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I have been waiting to start a build thread but going has been slow over the last year
Car is an 05 MSM. In fashion typical for me I bought this as a car for my wife and then the bug hit and has gone much further than I intended
Car was originally intended strictly as a street car but now I feel it moving toward a more track oriented machine
2005 VR MSM
built engine
ARP head studs and main studs
supertech pistons 8.6CR
949 rods
ACL race bearings
boundary engineering oil pump w/billet gears
ATI super damper
Maruha oil pan baffle
M tuned coolant reroute
Koyo radiator
Ported head
supertech oversize valves
supertech valve springs and Ti retainers
shim under bucket conversion
Integral cams 272/272
Blox intake manifold grafted to BP flange
Blox 67mm throttle body, honda IAC
ID1000 injectors
Flyin miata fuel rail
Walbro 255
Hydra out being upgraded to ver 2.7(hopefully it will help with the injector latencies and the terrible cold start)
Absurdflow Vband manifold(coated) and downpipe
Enthuza 3" exhaust
GT3071, Tial MVS external wastegate
Flyin miata intercooler
FM frame rails
AFCO coilovers
FM swaybars with upgraded mounts and FM endlinks
V8R control arms
door bars
frog arms
Hard dog roll bar
3.63 gears
OS Giken LSD
Beatrush PPF brace
6ULs 15x9 with 225 RS3s
Wilwood dynalites two piece rotors front,sport brakes two piece rotors rear, stainless lines
Gauges Boost/oil pressure/oil temp/water temp/EGT
Nielex short shifter
949 racing twin disc(organic) clutch
Mazda competition motor mounts(I have some MMRs but chickened out)
Solid differential mounts from FM

I can't decide which direction I am going to go with the car at time strett car or track rat.
I will be getting the Trackspeed 11.75 inch rotor upgrade and I hope to add the trackspeed NB radiator when available
I have concerns about the size of the intercooler and am looking for a tube and fin unit that is larger.
It needs better seats, and if I go the track route a hardtop, front and rear aero, air oil separator(crawford maybe or maybe homebrew) and an accusump
Anyway I am waiting for the Hydra to come back, the tune will be finished and I'll post the dyno results. I have yet to decide if I will have them shim the oil pump for more pressure
Forgot I have some race coils from Diyautotune that I will install with the hydra
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Dear lord your undercarriage looks bomb proof. Very nice build, did I miss your power goals?
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Dear lord your undercarriage looks bomb proof. Very nice build, did I miss your power goals?
Hmm, I had hoped to make 350whp on pump when I started. I think at 8k with e85 it should make 400whp but I really have no experience with cams in this size of a motor. I like the idea of e85 but the only stations around here(I live near forest heights in NW) are so far away it makes it a pain.
The initial tune will probably be pretty conservative as I have to learn to drive this thing. I did this all *** backwards putting all this stuff on first, but I didnt have much time to play this last year with a new baby and so I got really carried away. I have a line on a NB miata with a cage and coilovers but no power adders that I may pickup as a learning instrument.
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I keep scrolling up and down the original post. Wow, I'm in love. Awesome build!
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I want those control arms so bad!
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Wow, that is just beastly. Must be fun to drive. Did you find the FM frame rails made a big difference?
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^^^YUCK^^^

I really like this car. The V-band setup looks awesome.

What a car!
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Dems a lot of braces.

I'd love to tighten up my NA and I've been weighing whether to throw braces at, however, part of me thinks it would be better to just have a partial cage welded in (e.g. - rear hoop/roll bar with door bars and some sort of 'boxing' up front, essentially a full cage minus the upper bars so I can drive the car on the street without smashoring my head).

Have you had a chance to drive a caged car to compare? I'd even be curious to see your opinion on what braces seemed to be worth the $$$. I've heard really good things about the Boss Frog arms but I've yet to drive a car with them - the nose of my car becomes really unsettled over uneven pavement.

Anyways, not trying to detract from your build - it's ******* ****
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Wow, beautiful build, in for numbers and video!!
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Wow, beautiful build, in for numbers and video!!
And more pics please!
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Nice job sir. Post numbers up as soon as you get them!
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Originally Posted by kaisersoze
Hmm, I had hoped to make 350whp on pump when I started. I think at 8k with e85 it should make 400whp but I really have no experience with cams in this size of a motor. I like the idea of e85 but the only stations around here(I live near forest heights in NW) are so far away it makes it a pain.
The initial tune will probably be pretty conservative as I have to learn to drive this thing. I did this all *** backwards putting all this stuff on first, but I didnt have much time to play this last year with a new baby and so I got really carried away. I have a line on a NB miata with a cage and coilovers but no power adders that I may pickup as a learning instrument.

Oh wow, I didn't even realize you're local. I work in SE and there's one on 99/mcloughlin right around Fred Meyers. And a bio-diesel station right by where I work. That doesn't help you, but I think it's cool to see those popping up. Do they have an e85 station map somewhere? That'd be helpful. I've thought about doing the same, but lack of large injectors and lack of filling stations are holding me back.

Ah, here ya go:
http://www.altfuelprices.com/station...egon/Portland/
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Very Impressive. I am interested in what your rpm range will be with that cam.

I did not see cam gears in your list of parts. Something to consider if you want your peak power at a more conservative rpm. Big cam motors can be intimidating until you get use to it. Mistakes are not taken kindly.

I can not wait to see some results from this build. Congrats.
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