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03-02-2015, 06:48 PM
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Head *might* be done and shipped this week. I am excite!
I ordered up the stupid expensive 3.63 sender this weekend so if all goes well, I might be doing a diff swap this weekend. It looks like I probably could have just purchased the little gear head thing, but I couldn't find anyone to take the order. Fuckit, I just want this done.
I'm about 80% sure the Precision 600 is actually WIDER than the frame rails on the car, and I'm not willing to do what 99mx5 did to make it fit. I need this thing set back far enough that its not immediately visible and identifiable as an intercooler, so the search for an intercooler continues.
High on my list right now is the Treadstone TR8C.
The core is 7.8" X 22" X 3.5" and OAL is 28". Unfortunately the inlet/outlets are 3" which are technically MORE of a PITA than the 2.75" I/O on the Precision, but it is what it is. The 28" will allow me to actually get it to fit, and that's what counts. The Treadstone TR8 and TR8L are also options, but I don't like the crazy offset of the I/O and there is a much larger chance its going to interfere with with radiator mounts. I could build my own radiator mounts, but that seems excessive. If I do end up taking that path, the TR8 and TR8L are both 2.5" I/O so there is a chance I can use the FM IC to TB hose, but that's not something that will be make or break for me personally.
I've got the nose ripped off the car at the moment and this week I'll be installing the TSE radiator and making more measurements. By the end of the week I hope to have made a decision about the IC.
I ordered up the stupid expensive 3.63 sender this weekend so if all goes well, I might be doing a diff swap this weekend. It looks like I probably could have just purchased the little gear head thing, but I couldn't find anyone to take the order. Fuckit, I just want this done.
I'm about 80% sure the Precision 600 is actually WIDER than the frame rails on the car, and I'm not willing to do what 99mx5 did to make it fit. I need this thing set back far enough that its not immediately visible and identifiable as an intercooler, so the search for an intercooler continues.
High on my list right now is the Treadstone TR8C.
The core is 7.8" X 22" X 3.5" and OAL is 28". Unfortunately the inlet/outlets are 3" which are technically MORE of a PITA than the 2.75" I/O on the Precision, but it is what it is. The 28" will allow me to actually get it to fit, and that's what counts. The Treadstone TR8 and TR8L are also options, but I don't like the crazy offset of the I/O and there is a much larger chance its going to interfere with with radiator mounts. I could build my own radiator mounts, but that seems excessive. If I do end up taking that path, the TR8 and TR8L are both 2.5" I/O so there is a chance I can use the FM IC to TB hose, but that's not something that will be make or break for me personally.
I've got the nose ripped off the car at the moment and this week I'll be installing the TSE radiator and making more measurements. By the end of the week I hope to have made a decision about the IC.
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03-02-2015, 07:22 PM
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The other option is to buy a core (treadstone, vibrant, garrett, bell, etc) fab my own end caps and have Gesso tig it together for me. What could possibly go wrong!
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03-02-2015, 07:46 PM
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I'm like Vlad, I *had* the FM plumbing, but I sold it. Ironically enough, TO Vlad. 
Not sure if I want to buy it again or not. IIRC the FM intercooler itself is also debilitatingly expensive. 
Edit: Yeah, $515 for an IC is lolnope http://www.flyinmiata.com/index.php?...umber=22-35030
Not sure if I want to buy it again or not. IIRC the FM intercooler itself is also debilitatingly expensive. Edit: Yeah, $515 for an IC is lolnope http://www.flyinmiata.com/index.php?...umber=22-35030
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03-02-2015, 07:53 PM
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Why not just go fab9 intercooler for the 2.5" end caps and easy mounting solution if you are going to go through the effort of tigging new end caps onto the treadstone one and fabbing mounts.
Just seems like an easy solution to me...Not just due to me liking Fab9 products either, just...easy mode.
Just seems like an easy solution to me...Not just due to me liking Fab9 products either, just...easy mode.
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03-02-2015, 08:04 PM
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But they DO sell a 7" tall model
Jeff, believe it or not I don't like the Fab9 intercooler options. The "Stage1" is too short and there are absolutely zero pictures of the "Stage2" intercooler installed on an NB that show me anything I want to see. It looks like its too big and I have no idea what the clearances look like. I also don't like where it mounts. I also don't like anything sold as a "Stage"
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03-02-2015, 08:24 PM
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Quite honestly, that Godspeed TypeM IC that I sold with my Garrett stuff was the best fitting intercooler I've ever seen. I'm sure its just the same as the Taco/CXracing/DNA/eBay intercoolers everyone else is using. It certainly looked exactly like the one deezums has pictures of in his thread.
At this point I'm concerned about running an eBay IC at potentially 300hp and hoping it does its job at ThunderHill in 90°+ ambient weather. Intercooler is something I'd like to ahve oversized so I never have to worry about IAT regardless of ambient conditions. Fab/Vibrant/Bell/Garrett and Treadstone all seem to have decent reputations, Treadstone just happens to be the cheapest one in a size I think I can make work without too much effort.
At this point I'm concerned about running an eBay IC at potentially 300hp and hoping it does its job at ThunderHill in 90°+ ambient weather. Intercooler is something I'd like to ahve oversized so I never have to worry about IAT regardless of ambient conditions. Fab/Vibrant/Bell/Garrett and Treadstone all seem to have decent reputations, Treadstone just happens to be the cheapest one in a size I think I can make work without too much effort.
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03-02-2015, 08:36 PM
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I think you worry too much and should get *something* rolling and see if IAT temps are a problem or not. Of the things on your car to replace intercooler is not terribly difficult. For $72 shipped you should just call it a rock guard for the radiator.
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03-02-2015, 10:38 PM
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precision or bell is what I'd use
precision cause they ball out with turbulator count and placement
bell because they use internal baffles
as I've already discussed with you, the treadstone is also not looking too bad, but no personal exp.
the godspeed M I got from you was basically just like the other ebay stuff - not bad at all, but not what you're looking for in your balleur build.
I dunno about the 600 vibrant, but I know the 300 the turbulator count and placement is just like the above mentioned godspeed aka ebay, the big thing it has over the others is that it's built like a tank, super sturdy and solid.
precision cause they ball out with turbulator count and placement
bell because they use internal baffles
as I've already discussed with you, the treadstone is also not looking too bad, but no personal exp.
the godspeed M I got from you was basically just like the other ebay stuff - not bad at all, but not what you're looking for in your balleur build.
I dunno about the 600 vibrant, but I know the 300 the turbulator count and placement is just like the above mentioned godspeed aka ebay, the big thing it has over the others is that it's built like a tank, super sturdy and solid.
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03-02-2015, 10:43 PM
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I wouldn't worry about the FM piping. Cut and tig would be really easy with gesso's skill.
If i were being baller like you I would find the biggest core you can shove into your front, and then work around it. 2.5" piping would probably be preferred though.
Also $61...sixty one dollars.
If i were being baller like you I would find the biggest core you can shove into your front, and then work around it. 2.5" piping would probably be preferred though.
Also $61...sixty one dollars.
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