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Old 12-28-2016, 05:04 PM
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A light smear of RTV on both sides of the paper usually makes it work just right
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Paper gaskets only seem to work on perfectly flat new surfaces, torqued just right.
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Originally Posted by sixshooter
A light smear of RTV on both sides of the paper usually makes it work just right
Yeah I had some at home too, but my friend said he'd never used it before and there wasn't any residue there. The gasket was metal though. Worth getting the metal gasket from the dealership to make damn sure it doesn't leak? I can throw some rtv there too to make damn sure. I don't want to mess with this again for another 100k miles haha.
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Old 12-28-2016, 07:23 PM
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On the water pump inlet? I'd never use a metal gasket there. Spend $2 on a new paper one and smear a thin coat of rtv on both sides. Make sure that both metal surfaces are clean and smooth.
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Originally Posted by sixshooter
On the water pump inlet? I'd never use a metal gasket there. Spend $2 on a new paper one and smear a thin coat of rtv on both sides. Make sure that both metal surfaces are clean and smooth.
Any particular reason why?

If the reason this didn't work is lack of sealant, I'm going to be sad lol. It wasn't a drop of coolant. It just started to come out as it went in through the radiator and hit the block.
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The California crew seems to be forgetting what the next few months will be like around here. Buy something decent and all weather. Put them on whatever you have. Turn the boost way the hell down. My NC will barely get out of our work parking lot at stock horsepower during the winter with summers on. Then when it's sunny and you've saved for what will surely feel like an interminable time but is really only winter, you buy stickier. Or don't drive it for a while, and save until you have to. Also, if you're debating this, 9's may not fit the more budget appropriate rubber, and you may go through several sets with this thing.

Also, let me know if you ever need a hand.
No boost yet!

Always up for company and help. I'm pretty new to this so I want mostly assisting today. I'm going to try redoing things now that I sort of know what's going on.

Are you in beantown? I lived in Somerville for 5 years after college when I worked at mgh. I miss that area.
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The sealant helps to fill in the irregularities of the surfaces and ensures a good seal.
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Originally Posted by sixshooter
The sealant helps to fill in the irregularities of the surfaces and ensures a good seal.
Sorry, I meant any particular reason why you wouldn't use a metal one?

And my friend left his tools here for me. Hoping to try to get this done over the next day or so or atleast get it taken apart to the point where it'll take the two of us 3 hours to get it all back together.
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My inlet's face had minor casting voids and irregularities. Metal seals only touch a fraction of the surface of the face but paper gaskets cover its entire width. They have a much better chance of generating a positive seal.
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I'd put a super thin film of sealant on both sides either way you go.
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Originally Posted by 18psi
I'd put a super thin film of sealant on both sides either way you go.
While being completely pissed off yesterday, I found your threads from having had similar issues with a wp leaking.

Honestly, I feel like I'm legitimately wearing your shoes circa 4-6 years ago.
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Also, just my $0.02 on the wheels; I agree that 15X8 with 205/50s is the way to go. I love my Konig Dial Ins.
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Originally Posted by sixshooter
A light smear of RTV on both sides of the paper usually makes it work just right
Sorry to belabor this, but permatex ultra grey is fine right?

They had a separate water pump sealant, but when I googled rtv for water pump etc, I just got loads of recs for permatex ultra grey.
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Yes. Or copper. Or blue. And probably some types of clear.
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Originally Posted by sixshooter
Yes. Or copper. Or blue. And probably some types of clear.
Haha, seriously? They all would have been fine?

I have a different kind of RTV, but my friend that's helping didn't like it. I think when people use the same stuff for long enough and see that it works, they're hesitant to use anything else.

I'm going to take off the WP in a few hours and try getting things mostly back together. Friend will help and give it a final once over on sunday and then hopefully she'll fire right up!

Thanks again! Hope you and yours are enjoying the holidays.

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Also, just my $0.02 on the wheels; I agree that 15X8 with 205/50s is the way to go. I love my Konig Dial Ins.
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Black is also acceptable.

edit- and orange. Might want to, really, sit down, and think this through.
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Originally Posted by hi_im_sean
Black is also acceptable.

edit- and orange. Might want to, really, sit down, and think this through.
WOO ALL THE COLORS! MAYBE I SHOULD USE A LITTLE BIT OF ALL OF THEM TO BE EXTRA SAFE!

Haha, I don't think you understand how stressed I was when the coolant started pouring out all over the garage floor. Especially since I have a pretty hard deadline of getting this thing running again before my housemates show up after break.
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Yes, I live in Boston. Love this place. Let me know if you need a hand going through stuff and buttoning it up this weekend. I have Saturday night/Sunday plans, but should be free tomorrow morning, afternoon.
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Originally Posted by PatCleary
Yes, I live in Boston. Love this place. Let me know if you need a hand going through stuff and buttoning it up this weekend. I have Saturday night/Sunday plans, but should be free tomorrow morning, afternoon.
Thanks for the offer!

Unfortunately, I'm booked from tonight till sunday afternoon. I think Chris is coming over in a couple of hours so I'm going to get back to taking the thing apart. Hopefully we can get it together in a couple of hours. We just did this the other day so it should hopefully be faster than the first time!

Message me your number! I'll reach out that way for the future.

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Well, no leaks!

But also no start. Pretty sure timing is off. I'll post a video later, but currently it looks like:

Miata: 2
RTC: 0
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