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Old 04-05-2016, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by aidandj
Manifold = No
Compressor housing = acceptable
right before tb = bestest.
That only really matters for MBC. With EBC having the shortest tube routing is more important than the couple psi difference between the sources.
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Old 04-05-2016, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by dr_boone
I made a template of "Ryans super cool coil mount" and it doesn't clear the pvc on a 2000 1.8. I can send you my cad file after i get done tweaking it if you want.
Please do. I'm intrigued, because I took a huge chunk out of it, compared to my prototype, which fit. Tight but it fit. This was a 03 vvt though, so who knows.

Send me a picture of it too. I'm super curious as to how many places they put this thing.


Edit: wait, are you using a stock pcv and hose? I'm not, and never even tried to fit one.
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1.6 mods as promised. I dont have the actual dimensions, maybe ill try getting some. You can infer a good bit from the pics.



You can see whats needed on the pass side rear bolt hole here, as well as PCV exit.


And you can see the pass side front hole here.


Drivers side rear hole was off by the same amount as the pass side front hole, but in the direction depicted in the cad. the pass side center hole and drivers side forward hole seemed to line up just fine.
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Originally Posted by hi_im_sean

Which EBC value? Frequency? what valve?

Haven't touched the tach beyond making the new output circuit and enabling in TS. The tach will just barely flutter up to about 100 rpm when I rev it in neutral past about 4k rpm. So im kinda sure its wired right, just need to get a scope on it and see what the 1s and 0s look like.
This valve, 19.5Hz, I posted my boost target table already, if that is what you are referring.


It doesn't fit the 1.6 directly, remember. When I get a moment im going to make the changes on some MSpaint madness and give it to @ryansmoneypit so he can update the CAD(I really need to learn CAD). SADfab isn't making them and wont unless we receive permission from Ryan, as it is his design, and has only approved sharing it as open source. Even then, we have lots of other stuff on our plate and I wouldn't have any made up any time soon. But if there's interested and Ryan gives no *****, who knows.
I would love to get something like this since I don't have the means to precision cut or a metal brake. If you get your tachometer working please post up the fix you did for it. I plan on running LS coils pretty soon, once I get my exhaust manifold ground flat.
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Sean, hit me up, let's get some stuff going.
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Originally Posted by 18psi
all of these 3ports work by pulsing the valve. except all of ours are fine and yours seems like it was tuned by Michael j Fox
Bow to me peasant.



No more wiggles on the MAP. And *** it was hot today, look at that min MAT value. *** its too early for summer!
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The soonest available slot on the dyno is may 11. I have an apt for 9am.

I expect everyone to be in here at noon for results. That is all.
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Expecting live stream.
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200kpa? was that a fart?
I told you, all of it son

your turbo can do 247kpa in the midrange and at least 184kpa up top
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****, my overboost is set higher than 200kpa
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and your turbo was made for ants
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Sean and i were talking. How big of a difference is a couple mm in turbine wheel size? Is there math for that? Our turbos are quite similarly sized.
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id guess at least 10-20hp ..... ish

unlike your butt, your butt dyno will feel a couple mm of girth
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Originally Posted by 18psi
200kpa? was that a fart?
I told you, all of it son

your turbo can do 247kpa in the midrange and at least 184kpa up top
You talkin about dis? \/

Originally Posted by hi_im_sean
That was just proof of concept that I fixed the map wigglys.

Since I moved the map source, I redid my duty table to be safe, so that's why its all gay and only 200kpa spike, etc. Ill be bumping it up progressively in the next few weeks... maybe. I don't like to trust autotune at higher KPAs, and I don't have the time to drive and log, make changes drive and log. At least not as much as id like. Once I get it on the dyno, we will be tuning for ALLOFIT. Im going to tell my tuner to just max out whatever hits a wall first, whether it be compressor choke, or fuel or whatever.

My VE, timing and EBC tables are all binned to 262.
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ahh ok.

and actually roughing in a map is pretty easy. its all math. do pull, make table of AFR/RPM/Load from the log, divide by target AFR/RPM/Load and you'll be 90% there. then use the interpolate function to rough in the rest.

tuning fuel on a dyno is a big waste of time and money
....pretty much same with boost.

just sayin
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Originally Posted by 18psi
ahh ok.

and actually roughing in a map is pretty easy. its all math. do pull, make table of AFR/RPM/Load from the log, divide by target AFR/RPM/Load and you'll be 90% there. then use the interpolate function to rough in the rest.

tuning fuel on a dyno is a big waste of time and money
....pretty much same with boost.

just sayin

That sounds way better than just guessing at the changes needed lol. The few areas I have put a little time into, im just pulling a few units of VE at a time to be safe, and it takes forever. When I get time to **** with it, ill try your methodical (correct) approach. Thanks vlad.
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lets try this again



Tach no work. Yes, I know I should have just MS3X, but lets all pretend its 2006 and all we have is MS2, and Aidan is in diapers (the ones with princesses on them).

So this is what ive wired up on the proto.




I used a 1k for the collector resistor. Do I need a resistor on the output between the tach and collector?

Right now the needle juts barley moves at around 3k rpm. like from 0-100rpm fluttering. Above and below 3k it doesn't do ****, almost like a band pass filter. Any obvious "hey you dumbass" things before I get the scope out?
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What output
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what makes you think he doesn't have princess diapers now?
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