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Old 06-21-2012, 05:45 PM   #1221
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he slowly lost it. he was complaining it was low the other day, then lower, then nothing.
More or less this.

I will be checking the bearings. Then I will be replacing them even if they look good. I don't know how long it was like that so I want to be on the safe side.
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Old 06-23-2012, 04:21 PM   #1222
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The first thing I did today was drain the oil I have a magnetic oil drain plug and when I looked at it I did not see any metal shavings at all. I take that as a very good sign that not to much damage has been done. I then removed just about everything off the front of the engine and some of the stuff around the trans. Tomorrow morning I will pull the drive shaft, drain the transmission, unbolt slave, disconnect starter and alternator and I should be good to pull the motor. Hopefully I have it off and on a stand tomorrow. Not sure though how far I will start taking apart the motor tomorrow or not. We will see what time it is when I get done with all the other things and how much energy I have.
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That's one of the first things to get ruined when you loose oil pressure. That, cam bores, cam lobes, and piston bores.

Edit: Did you loose oil pressure, or is it just extremely low?

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The first thing I did today was drain the oil I have a magnetic oil drain plug and when I looked at it I did not see any metal shavings at all. I take that as a very good sign that not to much damage has been done. I then removed just about everything off the front of the engine and some of the stuff around the trans. Tomorrow morning I will pull the drive shaft, drain the transmission, unbolt slave, disconnect starter and alternator and I should be good to pull the motor. Hopefully I have it off and on a stand tomorrow. Not sure though how far I will start taking apart the motor tomorrow or not. We will see what time it is when I get done with all the other things and how much energy I have.

If your bearings are hurt, you may not see shavings. Worn bearings can look like ultra ultra fine sand, and will easily suspend in the oil. Copper happy golden bullshiz of tears. Pour your oil into a baking pan or something and let it sit. Then, gently pour the oil out of the pan. If your bearings have left detritus, then you will see it at the bottom of the pan.

There is a reason why I know this.

Also, if you forget to disconnect the slave, don't worry. It will disconnect itself.
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Old 06-23-2012, 05:23 PM   #1224
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If your bearings are hurt, you may not see shavings. Worn bearings can look like ultra ultra fine sand, and will easily suspend in the oil. Copper happy golden bullshiz of tears. Pour your oil into a baking pan or something and let it sit. Then, gently pour the oil out of the pan. If your bearings have left detritus, then you will see it at the bottom of the pan.

There is a reason why I know this.

Also, if you forget to disconnect the slave, don't worry. It will disconnect itself.
I did not see any metal flakes anywhere and I was looking. Bearings will be replaced no matter what. I am currently looking for a honing tool that fits the miata engine. I might pull pistons and give the bore a quick hone then put the pistons back in with the new bearings.

I also know I need to check valve clearance.
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Old 06-27-2012, 05:49 PM   #1225
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My BE race oil pump came in today. All the other parts arrived yesterday. I am about to go pick up an engine hoist from my friend. It is very possible that the motor comes out tonight. Then take apart everything on Friday and reassemble. Then drop motor in Saturday and hook everything back up.
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Old 06-27-2012, 06:53 PM   #1226
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Don't forget to put some kitty litter in the pressure relief channel. It'll help to keep it all nice and clean
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Then take apart everything on Friday and reassemble. Then drop motor in Saturday and hook everything back up.
Wait. So are you taking motor apart or not?
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I might pull pistons and give the bore a quick hone then put the pistons back in with the new bearings.
Waste of time. Unless you had ring leakage issues before.
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In for pics of your old oil pump.
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Waste of time. Unless you had ring leakage issues before.

I agree with this.

If your motor had happy ring seal, why risk having crap ring seal after rehone/rering?

Seriously, it seems like 1/10 built motors has crappy ring seal.
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Did you pull the engine or are you back to Faeflora-like schedule?
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Did you pull the engine or are you back to Faeflora-like schedule?
I am on the its 100+ degrees out schedule and I get lazy. Actually I am still waiting on a hoist. My friend needed his back suddenly. I was planning on buying one today, but trucks not starting. So I need to borrow a friends car later this week to go pick up a hoist from HF.
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excuses. just pull the engine naked.
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God does not want me to pull this motor. I finally got up to HF today and they were out of hoists. They said to check back on Tuesday. So I am praying they get one in then and I can pick it up.
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Try a different god.

Lars, get this done. I want to see some awesomeness.
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try any auto parts store.
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Hoist is assembled. As long as it is not raining tomorrow the motor will be coming out.
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i think that you should take longer

then you can be more like me.
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Old 07-11-2012, 06:42 PM   #1239
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i think that you should take longer

then you can be more like me.
I think you are correct. Thunderstorms kept me from pulling motor today. Tomorrow my schedule is full and Friday most likely the same. Saturday morning I will be hopefully buying my Mazda 2. So if the weather is nice, Saturday afternoon the motor will be pulled.
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I think you are correct. Thunderstorms kept me from pulling motor today. Tomorrow my schedule is full and Friday most likely the same. Saturday morning I will be hopefully buying my Mazda 2. So if the weather is nice, Saturday afternoon the motor will be pulled.
IF you buy a new mazda 2, how will you break the motor in?

Also, some pricing info:

Mazda has 1% holdback on base MSRP
Negotiating with Car Dealers - Dealer Holdback

Invoice is $14,300 for the sport
2012 Mazda Mazda2 Prices | MSRP | Mazda Mazda2 Invoice Price | True Dealer Cost Pricing

Mazda2 is a common car and will be carried by many dealers. To make your life easy, you can call up the various dealers and tell them that you will pay them invoice pricing and buy it today. Whoever agrees, buy it from them. Assuming they have the trim/color etc that you want. Don't be afraid to pit one dealer against another. I did that and saved $2000. In general, they offer no value except for discount pricing.

BTW

for $15,000 you can get a NC. Or a super low mile Mazdaspeed Miata that you could do just a few reliability mods on and have a nice 200hp reliable daily miata. Ex GF had mazdaspeed miata. Car was so nice, even bone stock. And wow, you even have a broken racecar, a broken all weather vehicle, and a working stock miata like I do.
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