Generation Wuss and related crap
11-15-2016, 12:12 PM
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That said, I'm not really sure doing it in the dark was the best idea...but I wouldn't wish that fate on anyone.
Not sure if getting hit by a car belongs in a generation wuss thread though. That's pretty metal.
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11-15-2016, 12:45 PM
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Eh, I'm pretty liberal. There's quite a lot of brainwashing on both sides of the aisle. I think part of the blame sits with how easy it is to be in an echo chamber.
I have quite a few conservative friends, especially among the mechanics I hang out with (a few of whom are vets, some conceal carry, yada yada yada), we disagree on plenty of stuff but actually talk about it. Apparently that's uncommon these days. That fact blows my mind. There's blatant disrespect and dismissal on both sides of the aisle. It's pretty frustrating and pretty much explains why we move from one political deadlock to another...and the need to abolish the 2 party system but hey...
I have quite a few conservative friends, especially among the mechanics I hang out with (a few of whom are vets, some conceal carry, yada yada yada), we disagree on plenty of stuff but actually talk about it. Apparently that's uncommon these days. That fact blows my mind. There's blatant disrespect and dismissal on both sides of the aisle. It's pretty frustrating and pretty much explains why we move from one political deadlock to another...and the need to abolish the 2 party system but hey...
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11-15-2016, 01:13 PM
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A lot of people are so stuck in their ways that they call out the other side for being hypocrites while failing to see that their own faulty logic. You see that a lot with climate deniers claiming that it's not real science because they use models and aren't open to being wrong and are paid off yada yada yada when in reality all science works by models and they don't understand the models well enough to disagree with what they don't like. On the flip side they argue that climate change scientists have a liberal agenda, when exxon-mobil etc have been studying it for decades and paying off researchers just like phillip morris was.
It's honestly hard though. There's such a volume of information and so many terrible sources that it's hard to see what the objective reality is anymore. Not everything comes with a conflict of interest so it's hard to see what folks really want out of what they're writing/claiming.
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11-15-2016, 04:56 PM
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shocking: black kids hate white people
Hundreds of students walk out of D.C. area schools to protest Trump | WUSA9.com
police and teachers support this truancy and lawlessness.
watch the video in the link. lol.
Hundreds of students walk out of D.C. area schools to protest Trump | WUSA9.com
police and teachers support this truancy and lawlessness.
watch the video in the link. lol.
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11-15-2016, 08:25 PM
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As idiotic as that may sound, it's actually becoming reality in some circles. I've come across blogs written by seemingly normal people who literally make a list of their "privileges" and post it at the top of the page. Some universities now have a formal system in place for students to register their preferred pronouns, and an administrative mechanism for handling cases in which others (be they students, faculty, or staff) fail to properly utilize them.
Obviously this only works when the offended party is of the SJW-mindset. Eg: If a feminist blogger says "I need feminism because 95% of Fortune 500 CEOs are male," an objective critic might reply with "Wait, did you just assume the gender of 95% of all Fortunate 500 CEOs? That's transphobic, and I'm offended by that." Obviously, such a reply will not be met gladly.
But mark my words: the time is near when private companies will institute policies like this. Don't believe me? Travel back in time to 1955 and show some average office workers a 2015-era corporate handbook.
If one compares the present day to the era of my youth, it's become much easier to find verifiable truth if you are objective about analyzing sources, and much easier to find speculative, miscontextualized, or false information which supports and reinforces existing biases if you are not. 30 years ago, you had to live near a major university library in order to have access to the vast supply of pure, legitimate truth which each of us has at our fingertips today. By the same token, you had to attend church or subscribe to badly-mimeographed newsletters to be exposed to the sheer volume of data-manipulation and outright falsehood.
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11-15-2016, 10:05 PM
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And yet that's precisely the intent of someone who says "I'm offended." When the system works as designed, it's a conversation-ender. "Oh, you're offended by what I said? Well, I must be in the wrong then, and I apologize profusely for my insensitive behavior."
As idiotic as that may sound, it's actually becoming reality in some circles. I've come across blogs written by seemingly normal people who literally make a list of their "privileges" and post it at the top of the page. Some universities now have a formal system in place for students to register their preferred pronouns, and an administrative mechanism for handling cases in which others (be they students, faculty, or staff) fail to properly utilize them.
Obviously this only works when the offended party is of the SJW-mindset. Eg: If a feminist blogger says "I need feminism because 95% of Fortune 500 CEOs are male," an objective critic might reply with "Wait, did you just assume the gender of 95% of all Fortunate 500 CEOs? That's transphobic, and I'm offended by that." Obviously, such a reply will not be met gladly.
But mark my words: the time is near when private companies will institute policies like this. Don't believe me? Travel back in time to 1955 and show some average office workers a 2015-era corporate handbook.
If one compares the present day to the era of my youth, it's become much easier to find verifiable truth if you are objective about analyzing sources, and much easier to find speculative, miscontextualized, or false information which supports and reinforces existing biases if you are not. 30 years ago, you had to live near a major university library in order to have access to the vast supply of pure, legitimate truth which each of us has at our fingertips today. By the same token, you had to attend church or subscribe to badly-mimeographed newsletters to be exposed to the sheer volume of data-manipulation and outright falsehood.
As idiotic as that may sound, it's actually becoming reality in some circles. I've come across blogs written by seemingly normal people who literally make a list of their "privileges" and post it at the top of the page. Some universities now have a formal system in place for students to register their preferred pronouns, and an administrative mechanism for handling cases in which others (be they students, faculty, or staff) fail to properly utilize them.
Obviously this only works when the offended party is of the SJW-mindset. Eg: If a feminist blogger says "I need feminism because 95% of Fortune 500 CEOs are male," an objective critic might reply with "Wait, did you just assume the gender of 95% of all Fortunate 500 CEOs? That's transphobic, and I'm offended by that." Obviously, such a reply will not be met gladly.
But mark my words: the time is near when private companies will institute policies like this. Don't believe me? Travel back in time to 1955 and show some average office workers a 2015-era corporate handbook.
If one compares the present day to the era of my youth, it's become much easier to find verifiable truth if you are objective about analyzing sources, and much easier to find speculative, miscontextualized, or false information which supports and reinforces existing biases if you are not. 30 years ago, you had to live near a major university library in order to have access to the vast supply of pure, legitimate truth which each of us has at our fingertips today. By the same token, you had to attend church or subscribe to badly-mimeographed newsletters to be exposed to the sheer volume of data-manipulation and outright falsehood.
The issue I have with it is when folks go around saying that someone's experience/thoughts/identity are invalid. I.e., you're a straight white christian male, you have no right to talk. Well... so much for productive conversation...
Re: the feminism and wall street stuff. Well.... that's a weird example because the finance world is often sexist, predatory, and abusive to women. I have a lot of friends that work in finance, a few on wall street and they've seen bizarre disparities in treatment too. So your comment kinda misses that. I kinda see what you're getting at though... but I guess I'll wait for that to happen first since I'd probably just laugh at it.
I understand why folks want to have trigger warnings etc because trauma can be real for many people (often PTSD-like), but honestly if you signed up for a literature class you should damn well know that people write about things that weren't so pleasant. I don't get why those are necessary... I am not responsible for your mental health in an academic setting like this. Silencing a viewpoint doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
When I wrote about the news and information, I was thinking about the pro-trump websites out of the Balkans that were getting shared like mad with everyone taking all that **** as gospel.
Heh. We might agree more than we might have thought earlier.
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11-16-2016, 12:08 AM
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I genuinely think that if enough people believe this, and pursue it to its natural outcome, the result is incompatible with civilization. It is an interesting metaphysical idea that when applied to reality becomes toxic.
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11-16-2016, 10:07 AM
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imma quote Joe's favorite here:
To exist is to be something, as distinguished from the nothing of non-existence, it is to be an entity of a specific nature made of specific attributes. Centuries ago, the man who was—no matter what his errors—the greatest of your philosophers, has stated the formula defining the concept of existence and the rule of all knowledge: A is A. A thing is itself. You have never grasped the meaning of his statement. I am here to complete it: Existence is Identity, Consciousness is Identification.
Whatever you choose to consider, be it an object, an attribute or an action, the law of identity remains the same. A leaf cannot be a stone at the same time, it cannot be all red and all green at the same time, it cannot freeze and burn at the same time. A is A. Or, if you wish it stated in simpler language: You cannot have your cake and eat it, too.
Are you seeking to know what is wrong with the world? All the disasters that have wrecked your world, came from your leaders’ attempt to evade the fact that A is A. All the secret evil you dread to face within you and all the pain you have ever endured, came from your own attempt to evade the fact that A is A. The purpose of those who taught you to evade it, was to make you forget that Man is Man.
Whatever you choose to consider, be it an object, an attribute or an action, the law of identity remains the same. A leaf cannot be a stone at the same time, it cannot be all red and all green at the same time, it cannot freeze and burn at the same time. A is A. Or, if you wish it stated in simpler language: You cannot have your cake and eat it, too.
Are you seeking to know what is wrong with the world? All the disasters that have wrecked your world, came from your leaders’ attempt to evade the fact that A is A. All the secret evil you dread to face within you and all the pain you have ever endured, came from your own attempt to evade the fact that A is A. The purpose of those who taught you to evade it, was to make you forget that Man is Man.
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11-16-2016, 11:11 AM
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We have always been at war with eastasia.
How so? Go on...
What I was saying was that folks want others to acknowledge differences in experiences/reality/perception and then basically admit that it disqualifies them and their opinion. The last part is pretty misguided.
What I was saying was that folks want others to acknowledge differences in experiences/reality/perception and then basically admit that it disqualifies them and their opinion. The last part is pretty misguided.
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