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Old 01-15-2013, 05:21 PM   #421
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That entire post was so all over the place with no clear thought process that I did not even understand the point.
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Old 01-15-2013, 05:48 PM   #422
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That is why anti-gun people hate gun people.
until they need them for protection... or forceful obedience.
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Old 01-15-2013, 05:58 PM   #423
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That is why anti-gun people hate gun people.
"This is why literate people hate people who utilize poor grammar" might be more accurate because his rambling rant was both "pro gun" and "pro gun control."
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Old 01-15-2013, 06:14 PM   #424
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So the lower sold.

He also has a complete Poly lower for $300. The interwebs have conflicting reviews. Most seem to like theirs. Then you have the haters.

Is this fever going to fade away? I don't want to pay stupid prices for something thats going to be $100 again in 6 months.
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Old 01-15-2013, 06:19 PM   #425
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"This is why literate people hate people who utilize poor grammar" might be more accurate because his rambling rant was both "pro gun" and "pro gun control."
Well seeing as it was from my phone which only has a tiny text box...sorry for grammar mistakes.

Who says pro-gun means anti-control? Gun control should be used to allow honest citizens have guns. So say you did 10 years for a murder, you serve your sentence and get out...you should not be able to go buy a gun.

You're an honest tax paying citizen, you should be able to go buy a gun.

If a person wants something, they'll get it whether its legal or not.
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Old 01-15-2013, 08:50 PM   #426
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Anyone who's ever been to a gun show knows that 99% of the guns sold are through FFLs and getting background checks already.
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Old 01-15-2013, 08:57 PM   #427
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Anyone who's ever been to a gun show knows that 99% of the guns sold are through FFLs and getting background checks already.
Exactly.

I've had a few people ask, "why would any one need an assault rifle in their house? Why would you need a fully auto rifle" I then asked them if they thought that ever AR was fully auto...they said yes. Some people just don't know and they believe the worst. I mean, I understand not knowing something but don't accuse/make statements about "facts" if you don't know about the facts of the "facts"
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Exactly.

I've had a few people ask, "why would any one need an assault rifle in their house? Why would you need a fully auto rifle" I then asked them if they thought that ever AR was fully auto...they said yes. Some people just don't know and they believe the worst. I mean, I understand not knowing something but don't accuse/make statements about "facts" if you don't know about the facts of the "facts"
Since when have people cared about facts? It's all about running ones suck about how the government should pass a law that will make us feel better after something bad happens, like we did something positive.
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Well, ill give my guns up and feel safe when the secret service give up theirs. By then everyone, including the president, will be safe and we, the people, will have no reason to own guns for protection.
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Anyone else see the bil Obama passed today? He, and all former Presidents get S.S. security for life. He's protected by FULL AUTO guns, but we can't have more than 7 rounds in a magazine.

I sincerely hope someone shoots Cuomo.
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1. "Issue a presidential memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system."

2. "Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system."

3. "Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system."

4. "Direct the attorney general to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks."

5. "Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun."

6. "Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers."

7. "Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign."

8. "Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission)."

9. "Issue a presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations."

10. "Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement."

11. "Nominate an ATF director."

12. "Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations."

13. "Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime."

14. "Issue a presidential memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence."

15. "Direct the attorney general to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies."

16. "Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes."

17. "Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities."

18. "Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers."

19. "Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education."

20. "Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover."

21. "Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges."

22. "Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations."

23. "Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health."
I like how picking a director for the ATF is on the list. I am pretty sure that is one of Obama's jobs anyways.
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I like how picking a director for the ATF is on the list. I am pretty sure that is one of Obama's jobs anyways.
He said that he had to issue an EO since he couldn't seem to follow the procedure laid out by the Constitution where Congress approves the appointment.
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What degree of mental illness precludes gun ownership?
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I like how picking a director for the ATF is on the list. I am pretty sure that is one of Obama's jobs anyways.
If that is the actual list of his initiatives, I have a hard time - on their face - objecting strongly to most (any) of them.

However, I just found the Washington Post transcipt of his press conference and he does, in fact, call on Congress to reinstate the 10-round magazine and "assault weapons" ban.
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Oh, and no mention of suicides, inner city or black-on-black incidents being a disproportionate amount of violent crime relative to total population and, of course, no mention that firearms related homicides have been trending down for the last several years despite a high volume of firearms sales.

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If that is the actual list of his initiatives, I have a hard time - on their face - objecting strongly to most (any) of them.

However, I just found the Washington Post transcipt of his press conference and he does, in fact, call on Congress to reinstate the 10-round magazine and "assault weapons" ban.
I think that list is just what he is using EO's to do, he knows he needs congress to pass AWB and magazine capacity limits.

I still am highly doubtful of an AWB or magazine ban happening.
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