I absolutely think there should be a conversation about this.
I tried finding some verification other than "tin foil hat" type sites and did find this article from National Review that I thought helped put some of the purchases in perspective by breaking them down per armed employee.
That second article also points out some other issues that should be part of that national conversation. For example, should the Department of Education have armed enforcement agents rather than coordinating with the FBI or other traditional law enforcement groups? Why are there so many damn overlapping beauracracies?
What justification is there for having domestic law enforcement agencies having mine-resistant armored personnel carriers?
You forgot my AWESOME Janet Napolitano picture:
I spent a solid 10 minutes in MS Paint working on that
And I now 100% agree with this ludacris thread title, I *should* be able to own an RPG now that DHS has APCs. I mean, seriously...
One of my favorite quotes on the subject, as stolen from the Wikipedia:
Originally Posted by Wikipedia 2A Page
Some believe that the framers of the Bill of Rights sought to balance not just political power, but also military power, between the people, the states and the nation, as Alexander Hamilton explained in 1788:
Originally Posted by Hamilton
"[I]f circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army of any magnitude[,] that army can never be formidable to the liberties of the people while there is a large body of citizens, little, if at all, inferior to them in discipline and the use of arms, who stand ready to defend their own rights and those of their fellow-citizens."
Gun insurance, because that makes sense. "But you can legislate that it cover unjust homicide." So you're telling me it's going to be ridiculously expensive, and there will be ridiculous fines for not having insurance. Sounds like an economic barrier to entry, if you want to own a gun legally, that is. Which criminals don't care, so it doesn't matter.
I read through the Connecticut proposal last night. Didn't they already have a fairly strict weapons ban? The rep for the NSSF said he felt like he was bringing second amendment supporters to talk to the legislators for no reason. Yay feel good legislation.
They're planning on doing the shotgun program down here, as well. Single shot with slugs. The neighborhood they're planning on has houses *very* close together. Slugs are a bad idea. I wouldn't even want to be firing #4 buck in that area.
After a vote was cast in the joint committee accepting the amendment, the Democrats took a quick recess and mounted a push to erase Smigiel's amendment. The Chair called the committee meeting back to order and issued an unprecedented, out-of-procedure "do-over" vote and reversed the confirmation of Smigiel's amendment. Listen to Smigiel describe the process on WMAL's "Mornings on the Mall" to O'Connor:
7:45 in video:
amendment 503422/xcdsacda passed 24 to 21.
MD has now just passed an amendment to punish criminals for being criminals.
11:40, after recess, and then a long debate they "recount" the vote, it fails 23 to 23 [13:50]. i counted 25 yays then 24 yays respectively...
now legal citizens are to be punished for criminal's actions.
i have been mugged twice at gun point and shot once while running away from muggers (in the leg luckily), many of my friends have been mugged and beaten up on the very democratic streets of baltimore...
i vote MORE guns for the law abiding people, and dont get me started about why we should be able to defend ourselves from our gov.
If you use a firearm to commit a crime, no probation, no parole, no good behavior.
If the victim of the criminal is a minor in certain crimes (sex crimes) same thing.
If the crime is simple possession of a firearm, you are still entitled to probation, parole, and good behavior.
And the Dems shut it down? Did they think that last part was "too soft" on gun crime? Or do they support releasing murderers and rapists on probation and parole, only for them to re-offend (usually spectacularly, like the guy in New York who was shooting first responders) so they can use it as an excuse to take our weapons?
And obviously longer prison sentences wouldn't deter gang crime even .001%.