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Old 07-15-2014, 04:01 PM   #2481
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In cases like these I do appreciate seeing the criminal get his *** beat. However it also shows the hypocrite in me, cheering on the citizens yet judging and doubting when the cops do it.
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there's a difference; dude almost drove away with a wife/children--so I can understand a little outrage and violence when trying to capture a grand theft kidnapper.

and they don't continually beat and taser him once he's down. and when he tries to resist they just keep him held down until they can handcuff him.

and notice how they can get the cuffs on without having to punch him in the face, break him arms, or even hit him with a baton to the kidneys.
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Old 07-15-2014, 04:20 PM   #2483
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Good point, although I can't say I would complain much if he caught a few more bruises on the way downtown.

I have little patience for those that steal/hurt others, cop or criminal.
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In cases like these I do appreciate seeing the criminal get his *** beat. However it also shows the hypocrite in me, cheering on the citizens yet judging and doubting when the cops do it.
A citizen hasn't been specifically trained for such situations, nor have most had formal hand-to-hand combat training, not to mention the litany of force multipliers available to "peace officers," seemingly used with impunity.

Also, other than the one guy stomping on his hand, this looked extremely reserved. They could have easily killed that guy. They only threw punches while he was trying to escape, and they pinned him down and held him until the cops showed up.

Like one of responses to one of the pearl-clutching YouTube commenters "I've seen cops beat women from behind worse than this. Here's an idea, don't commit crimes and you won't get shitty treatment."
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Dammit, repost.
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In cases like these I do appreciate seeing the criminal get his *** beat. However it also shows the hypocrite in me, cheering on the citizens yet judging and doubting when the cops do it.
Hypocrite?
I dunno.
Them citizen vigilantes are not sworn to uphold a lot of stuff and it is not their profession.
I have much figured that it is a whole different thing that one sworn to uphold the law to violate the law to enforce the law.
When the law keepers violate the law there is no law.

I did a citizens arrest once and explained rights to the punks > "You don't have any." And I went on to explain that I had right to hold them by any means I felt necessary until cops got there. Then they would have rights.

Again - when there is not a little of the hypocrite in any of us then maybe it is time to apply for sainthood.
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Good point, although I can't say I would complain much if he caught a few more bruises on the way downtown.

I have little patience for those that steal/hurt others, cop or criminal.
Me too - but that cop has the extra obligation to uphold the Constitution and to not prejudge and mete out punishment.
Citizens are not trained how to deal with cops or criminals.
If cops administer some more bruises to *suspects* then I want the cops to not be cops and maybe do some time and fines as example for others.
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Lawsuit aims to give right to film cops in public places
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NEW YORK (PIX11) – Debra Goodman knows her smartphone’s video camera like the back of her hand and won’t hesitate to record a random police encounter, from tough neighborhoods in the Bronx to her own Upper West Side.

“I wasn’t scared until I was arrested, and then I was pretty freaked out,” said Goodman. “They physically put the cuffs on me and they manhandled me, and threw me in the back of the truck like a piece of meat.”

Debra says things went south in a hurry on September 25th, when she began recording EMTS and two police officers attending to a disabled woman at the corner of Broadway and West 73rd street.

Debra is the plaintiff representing other police video documenters, in a federal lawsuit that seeks to give people the right – under the First Amendment – to record police officers working in public places.

That right already exists in several other cities, but there is no specific law on the books in New York.

While they haven’t seen the case, a spokesperson from the NYC Law Department issued a statement regarding the NYPD’s policy in bystanders filming police.

“Bystanders are allowed to film police officers as long they’re not interfering with the officers’ duties and/or police operations,” she said. “People are also allowed to film public officials with the same principles in mind.”

However, the Justice Department recognizes a citizen’s right to roll on the cops, writing in a 2012 memorandum,

“Officers should be advised not to threaten, intimidate, or otherwise discourage an individual from recording police officer enforcement activities or intentionally block or obstruct cameras or recording devices.”

“We’re pretty confident legally, especially with the precedent from the first, the seventy, the ninth, and eleventh court of appeals. Our sense is, this makes absolute sense. That as long as you’re not interfering with the police doing their job, why can’t you record it?” said Siegel.

Debra Goodman says her desire to turn ordinary walks into an exercise in law enforcement accountability, shouldn’t come with the gift of twenty five hours in custody…which is what she says happened following her own arrest.

“I think that we should try to affirm our right to have the right to film the police in public when they’re performing their duty,” said Goodman.



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the supreme court has already ruled on that over and over and over and over.
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Old 07-17-2014, 09:43 AM   #2492
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next time mention you smelled weed

Hit-and-run victim investigates, solves own crime | wfaa.com Dallas - Fort Worth

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The driver of a silver Volkswagen hit Rogers in the middle of the intersection. But, what happened next was even more surprising.

"So I'm still on my bike, and she forced her way through me," Rogers said.
The car pushed him aside and took off.

Rogers said he wasn't hurt seriously. He said he still feels some pain in his left foot, which was on the pedal that was struck by the car. Part of that pedal broke off, and Rogers said he couldn't find it.

A witness called the Smyrna Police Department and an officer came to the scene to fill out a report. The officer told Rogers it would be a day or two before a detective would be assigned to the case.

Rogers said he was so upset about the driver leaving that he didn't want to wait.

"I was not so much upset about the accident because accidents happen," he said. "I was upset that she pushed her way through and it was a hit and run."

The next day Rogers went back to the apartment complex the car pulled out of to look for a silver Volkswagen. He wasn't expecting much.

"The first car that I saw was a silver Volkswagen," he said. "I took a picture of it, and I thought, 'I'm going to check the front to see if there's any damage.'"

He took a picture of the car from behind and when he walked around to the front he found the missing piece from his bike pedal stuck in the grill of the car.

"The pedal sticking out was what really sealed it," Rogers said.

A police officer who lives in the apartment complex ran the car's license plate and found an address for the owner. Smyrna police arrested the driver, Pablynne Silva, 20, and charged her with a misdemeanor hit and run.

"Mr. Rogers solved the crime," said Officer Chris Graeff. "It's kind of rare, but he did a good job."

When police questioned Silva about what happened, she said, "I kinda hit a guy on a bike," according to an incident report.

When the officer asked her why she didn't stop, she stated because she was scared.
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Cops riddle car with bullets. human shield hostage dead.


luckily the two other hostages were smart enough to jump out of the car before police could get to them as well.
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Old 07-17-2014, 09:52 AM   #2494
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This is how kids play cops and robbers nowadays:

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Old 07-17-2014, 09:54 AM   #2495
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recurring theme: this is a real bird too.



i lol'ed for this one.
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Old 07-17-2014, 09:59 AM   #2496
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recurring theme: another day, another dog to end.

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The call card — a log kept by dispatchers that indicates the sequence of events during each call for service — shows that Clifton tied up the horse and tried to contact Michelle Green-Fernandez, who resides at the home with her husband Trent Fernandez. GCSO left a voicemail after no one answered.

During the time Deputy Clifton was there, he reported that he had to “put down one of the dogs.” Meanwhile, GCSO also tried to contact Fernandez, albeit unsuccessfully.

The report said Green-Fernandez later called and informed officers she and her husband were out of town. After they returned home, they discovered the deceased animal.
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Police officer accused of driving drunk pulled over twice in one night | FOX8.com

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An Ashtabula police officer was pulled over twice in one night under suspicion of driving under the influence before he was arrested.

Willoughby police received a call about a pickup driving erratically around 1 a.m. on June 21 near the intersection of SOM Center Road and Euclid Avenue.

Dash cam video shows a Willoughby officer began trailing the pickup before it pulled over in a Speedway parking lot. The Willoughby officer then learned that Ashtabula Police Patrolman Wayne Howell, Jr., 33 of Ashtabula, was behind the wheel.

Willoughby’s police chief said his officer did not conduct a field sobriety test or issue a written warning, but instead urged Howell, Jr. to get a ride home before leaving the scene.

“He felt the individual would get a ride home, but I wouldn’t trust anybody with something that important,” said Willoughby Police Chief Jack Beckwith.

About 20 minutes later, an Ohio State Highway Patrol trooper stopped Howell, Jr. on SR 44 in Concord Township and arrested him for operating a vehicle while intoxicated. The citation shows Howell, Jr. had a blood alcohol level of .159, nearly twice Ohio’s legal limit.
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Special needs are difficult. Bullets are easy.

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i was going to say repost, but it's just the same old story...
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/start recurring theme: cops like to steal

Connecticut State Trooper Pleads Guilty To Stealing From Dying Crash Victim

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A Connecticut state trooper will serve 16 months in prison after pleading guilty Wednesday to stealing cash and jewelry from a dying victim of a motorcycle crash.

Aaron “AJ” Huntsman, 45, pleaded guilty under the Alford Doctrine to two felonies — third-degree larceny and tampering with evidence.

The 19-year veteran of the state police force could have faced up to 10 years in prison for the two charges, according to the Connecticut Post.
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