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Old 12-03-2013, 08:28 PM   #821
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Of course they can't go anywhere without permission. They're on leave with pay, not paid vacation. Just like they'd have to radio in to ask if they can go pick their kid up from school if they were on duty, they'd have to call in for permission on leave. Just like they'd get fired for drinking on active duty, they can't drink on hours they're being paid for on leave.

So, if they lie to get past the criminal investigation, and they're found not guilty, they can tell the truth to the administrative and just lose their job? Or they can lie, and keep their job? It's not like the department is going to prosecute them for perjury. That could cause problems on any case they've ever testified against. And they got a week+ of pay without work out of the deal? And they never seem to publish the names of these officers anyway, so none of us will ever know if they got promoted to police chief or fired and working at McDonald's?

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After a beat down in an elevator, Joshua Daniel Ortiz ended up with his nose broken and facing a charge of battering a Fort Lauderdale police officer. The 22-year-old man was surprised and delighted to learn Wednesday that Broward prosecutors were dropping the case against him after reviewing an elevator surveillance video showing three officers aggressively rush and beat Ortiz to the ground.
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Old 12-04-2013, 10:23 AM   #824
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A Muskogee County man was hospitalized after being shot Monday by the Warner police chief, who was trying to keep the man from committing suicide, an official said.
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Old 12-04-2013, 10:25 AM   #825
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Charging documents obtained by WUSA9 allege that Metropolitan Police Department Officer Marc Washington took naked photographs of a 15-year-old girl at the beginning of December.

The girl had been reported missing by her mother a few days earlier, according to the charging documents. Washington was the officer to take the mother's report at her apartment, and also received the mother's phone call asking for the girl to be taken off the missing persons list on Dec. 1.

Later that day, say police, Washington returned to the apartment. He asked to speak with the girl privately, purportedly to talk to her about where she'd been. Inside her bedroom, the documents allege, Washington asked the girl to remove her shirt and bra in order to photograph any injuries she may have suffered -- even though the girl told Washington that she didn't have any injuries. She complied with his requests, and he photographed her without her shirt on.

Washington then asked the girl to take off her boxer shorts and underwear in order take pictures of tattoos on her hips, for "identification purposes," according to the documents, and he photographed her vagina.

After Washington left the apartment, the girl told her mother what happened, and the mother called 911. When Washington learned of the call, he deleted the photos of the girl, but these -- along with "numerous images of unidentified individuals," at least two of whom appear to be minors, according to police -- were recovered on the camera by police.
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Once again, only cops get to investigate cops.
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Old 12-04-2013, 04:03 PM   #827
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Then he said one police officer started threatening him saying, “If we have to get a warrant, we’re going to come back when you’re not expecting it, we’re going to park in front of your house, where all your neighbors can see, we’re gonna bust in your door with a battering ram, we’re gonna shoot and kill your dogs, who are my family, and then we’re going to ransack your house looking for these people.”
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Old 12-04-2013, 04:10 PM   #828
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Once again, only cops get to investigate cops.
Serious question. Who else is going to investigate cops?

Cops investigate crimes no matter who commits them. There is not really any other group that can perform this function of which I am aware.

I understand there is an independence issue here but that is why internal affairs is a separate section of the police force that reports to an entirely different leadership structure. Is this perfect? No. I am not sure how else you could handle an investigation in a different manner.
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Old 12-04-2013, 04:30 PM   #829
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Internal investigation usually means inside their department, so they can keep it hush and out of the public spotlight. Brush that **** under a rug and continue as if nothing happened.
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Different cities should investigate. i.e. Chicago PD should do it for Detroit PD, and vise versa.
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They are all still law enforcement. They would still feel obligated to cover up for one of their brothers in arms against the unruly mobs of pitiful civilians that they are forced to deal with daily. I guess it would be better than nothing. I wouldn't mind them investigating themselves if they allowed for full transparency.
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They are all still law enforcement. They would still feel obligated to cover up for one of their brothers in arms against the unruly mobs of pitiful civilians that they are forced to deal with daily. I guess it would be better than nothing. I wouldn't mind them investigating themselves if they allowed for full transparency.
Then answer my question. Who should be investigating cops?
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Old 12-04-2013, 10:04 PM   #834
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Then answer my question. Who should be investigating cops?
As I said, I'd be fine with them doing it themselves if they were transparent about everything and enforced the same law that applies to everyone else who isn't a law enforcement agent.
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Old 12-04-2013, 10:46 PM   #835
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How about the FBI? It'd give them something constructive to do these days, since NSA has pretty much wrapped up the domestic spying thing.
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Who doesn't like cops? Lawyers. If there is a big claim like this, then an independent lawyer/private investigator should be contracted to do the work.

From my time in the prison, it is hilarious to think that a fellow guard would rat me out on behalf of a prisoner if I did something wrong. It is a very strong "us vs. them" mentality that will not change. Someone outside the system should do the work.
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Only problem with that is that the FBI and other federal agencies are even sneakier and less trustworthy, in my opinion. And **** lawyers.
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Who doesn't like cops? Lawyers. If there is a big claim like this, then an independent lawyer/private investigator should be contracted to do the work.

From my time in the prison, it is hilarious to think that a fellow guard would rat me out on behalf of a prisoner if I did something wrong. It is a very strong "us vs. them" mentality that will not change. Someone outside the system should do the work.
Lawyers are not investigators. A private investigator could work but then it begs to question who would be responsible for launching the investigation, choosing the investigator, paying him, and what authority would he maintain during his investigation.
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Old 12-05-2013, 12:14 AM   #839
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Lawyers are not investigators. A private investigator could work but then it begs to question who would be responsible for launching the investigation, choosing the investigator, paying him, and what authority would he maintain during his investigation.
The system is wrapped up so that anything other than what is currently on the table seems impossible. I can't think of any suitable way to make anything else work. Who watches the watchmen? Anyone put into a position to do so would probably become even more corrupt.
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Lawyers are not investigators. A private investigator could work but then it begs to question who would be responsible for launching the investigation, choosing the investigator, paying him, and what authority would he maintain during his investigation.
A lawyer looks for ways to either put someone in jail for breaking the law or getting their client off through a loophole or lack of evidence or whatever.

In Braineacks videos, such as the one where the police straight up charged the guy in the elevator and beat the **** out of him, there really was nothing to "investigate." The video evidence showed everything. The lawyer/private investigator/whateveryouwant would use that to show the police did something wrong, instead of "internal affairs" trying to cover it up or "losing evidence" which happens a lot.
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