Braineack

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lol. Not quite sure how that works...

Splitime

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Yah... they don't want their people back and then have to deal with them.

Braineack

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Oh, is it written in their Constitution about that or something?

Stein

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Guess they will sue us next. Small town in Nebraska about 30 miles north of me just passed their own law similar to Arizona's. It specifically targets those who rent or hire illegals. At least someone is doing something about this problem.

http://journalstar.com/news/state-an...cc4c002e0.html

chicksdigmiatas

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**** them, ********. If they're not legal send them the hell back. I don't need them over here breaking into my house, stealing my ****, and choking on the sweet air of freedom. **** it if Mexico thinks it is unconstitutional. They shouldn't let those asswipes run around and do what ever they want, then drain their own damn country, then come over here and mess with us. Mexico can go the **** on. They have no rights under our constitution if they are not citizens, no rights to anything our country offers. They probably have government employees come mooch off our system, then mail it back to the Mexican government. Keep ******* with us Mexico. Uncle Sam will put you on the list. We know what that means, huh Iraq?

chicksdigmiatas

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Braineack

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no, he wanted to give them all amnesty, which just increases incentives.

Doppelgänger

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Can't we just treat illegals like insect pestss and get rid of them on the spot? **** Mexico, they have no right to weight in on this. In that case, can I take the Mexican government to court citing my higher insurance rates because of their citizens driving without insurance over here nad causing accidents, blame them for COUNTLESS violent crimes caused by their drug runners supplying cocaine/heroin/meth to our country and sue for all the money their illegally-here citizens send back to their country draining our economy? What about all the unpaid medical bills from their citizens stiffing our hospitals and doctors? I want the Mexican government to pay that back as well.

KPLAFIN

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Class action? I'm down.

Stealth97

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I believe if you are here illegally you are a criminal, the government should make you get the hell out.

lordrigamus

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Agreed!

gospeed81

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Regardless of my feelings on the issue, there is one thing that everyone should have clear.

Illegal immigration is not a CRIME, it is a CIVIL offense, and is not punishable through U.S. criminal code. Deportation is conducted in civil courts. It pays to actually understand our judicial system.

This is where the debate actually has meat on the anti-Arizona side. Most of those dummies don't know it and certainly can't express it since they're just "out marching and mad," but they're actually protesting criminal treatment of civil offenders.

Now, this civil offense does have far reaching ramifications for us as Americans, and we have a right to be upset. We need to be upset with our elected officials however. Those that wish to be here should have sufficient legal channels to go through, and our current immigration system is . Having a more efficient system will also facilitate "weeding out" those that just want to leech off the system from those that really wish to be a part of our society....the wheat from the chafe.

I'm sure I've mentioned it, but my wife is a naturalized citizen. She earned her citizenship a few months before we met, after a 10yr process she was determined to go through. Her whole family took the legal immigration route, but it meant years of separation which her father is still trying to make up for. They vote, pay taxes, carry insurance and registration on vehicles, work hard, support our economy, and avoid debt like the plague. I think the only gov benefit they get is some prescription program for her mother since her father manages his own trucking company and doesn't have health ins. They pay for actual doctor visits out of pocket at a local clinic, and only seek help with the long-term, overpriced (thanks FDA) prescriptions.

Many of these people look just like the worthless scumbags that pull every benefit, don't pay taxes, send every dollar not spent on booze/drugs back home, and leave sprite bottles full of **** in between studs while hanging drywall...but you'd never know it. This is what our government should be doing: saying "you, come on, you, go back", and doing so at a rate that can handle the type of immigration you'll see with a poor neighbor whose corrupt government won't protect their own people.

Keep being mad at the people if you want...some of them deserve it. But please, for the sake of those that are just as worthy of learning our national anthem as our great-grandparents were, be MAD with the lazy legislators as well.

Braineack

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I dont see the problem...

gospeed81

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Notice I highlighted the "criminal" part, and not the "government can make you get the hell out" part.

Don't undermine my argument bitch.

Doppelgänger

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No.

Remember when those two boarder guards shot (non-fatal...shot him in the butt..he was fine) the illegal messicant for running from them and having a van full of drugs? Yeah, Bush stated he would not pardon them because he didn't want to hurt US-Mxico relations. F-that. Those guys were doing their jobs and felt they were in a threatening situation and did what they were tained to do. Yeah, they didn't leave the crime scene as was and probably shouldn't have done that, but getting 10+ in fed. pen. for it was excessive to say the least.

chicksdigmiatas

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That was a drunk post, I do miss him, but not for that. Just wanted to post that somewhere.