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Old 03-22-2017, 10:07 PM
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Welp. There goes the neighborhood.

US Officials: Info suggests Trump associates may have coordinated with Russians - CNNPolitics.com

Lets see what this develops into once the 'may' nature of this info changes.

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At least your source knows what the $ will buy;

The new home – his third – is located on an island in Lake Champlain, said The Washington Post, and it cost three times the average home price in Vermont. The Post says Sanders and his family intend to use the property as a vacation home.
Not sure what his personal wealth has anything to do with how he feels about taxation. His policies and support for them have been pretty consistent which is pretty great especially given his financial status. It's not like he magically changed his stance when he came into wealth or such.

Warren Buffet is pretty outspoken about what he thinks about tax code etc. It doesn't make him a hypocrite because he has money.
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Old 03-22-2017, 10:18 PM
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How convenient...

http://gizmodo.com/exxon-probably-lost-those-secret-rex-tillerson-emails-1793546249
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Old 03-23-2017, 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by ridethecliche
Hmm, I wonder who else has had their emails disappear before?
Let me think . . .
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Old 03-23-2017, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by good2go
Hmm, I wonder who else has had their emails disappear before?
Let me think . . .
I know. It's a travesty right? Where could they have gone? The George W. Bush White House ?Lost? 22 Million Emails
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Old 03-23-2017, 10:43 AM
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white christian copy-cat:

Belgian police stop attempted car-ramming attack in Antwerp



A person has been detained in Antwerp, Belgium, after attempting to drive his car into a busy shopping street at high speed, according to police."A vehicle with French plates has tried to drive at high speed into the Meir [shopping street]. A man in camouflage was taken away," Antwerp police chief Serge Muyters told a news conference.

"The pedestrians had to jump aside," he added.

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"It seemed to involve a French national, with possibly a certain number of weapons in his boot - it's up to the judges to make a statement on that - who was looking to kill or at the very least create a dramatic incident," Hollande told reporters.
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Old 03-23-2017, 04:21 PM
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Ahh the bullshit that accompanies a 24 hr news media...

"This just in WATER IS WET. More at 11!"
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Anything to distract us from reality:

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*when you let terrorist, freely into tour country, and referred to moderate Muslims as "uncle tom"

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Originally Posted by ridethecliche
Ahh the bullshit that accompanies a 24 hr news media...
Serious observation: the movie "Anchorman 2: The Legend of Ron Burgundy" actually got a lot of things right about the genesis of the 24 hour news format, and how it metamorphosed into what it is today.
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and he was based on Ted Baxter, and they play homage to him again as the dog's name.
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Originally Posted by triple88a
That's what we call the graduated tax system. What you're seeing are people getting taxed the most getting taxes back. If it was "fair", what you'd actually see is the word $ubsidised for all the bottom brackets.
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Originally Posted by cordycord
That's what we call the graduated tax system. What you're seeing are people getting taxed the most getting taxes back. If it was "fair", what you'd actually see is the word $ubsidised for all the bottom brackets.
Yep. There was a tax added by Obama for the upper income brackets ONLY which was specifically to pay for ACA, so it is really no surprise and not a true tax cut per se (just repealing that recently imposed penalty tax) if ACA is repealed.

I love how when ACA was shoved down our throats, "IT WAS NOT A TAX INCREASE", but now if anybody's taxes go down after its demise, then they are "GETTING A TAX CUT". Give me a ****** break.

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Republicans cry about their earned income being taxed and stolen for them with nothing in return, as liberals cry about tax breaks given to producers and their free stuff being taken away.
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*when you let terrorist, freely into tour country, and referred to moderate Muslims as "uncle tom"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPqHMcNUuP0
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Donald Trump Jnr criticised after ridiculing Mayor of London Sadiq Khan hours after Westminster attack

The mayor’s statement was made after the New York bombing, in which 29 people were wounded by homemade explosives placed in rubbish bins in Manhattan.

“Part and parcel of living in a great global city is you’ve got to be prepared for these things, you’ve got to be vigilant, you’ve got to support the police doing an incredibly hard job,” said Mr Khan, who was in New York at the time.

“The terrorists are evolving their tactics and we have got to evolve our response to them all the time. I am afraid the consequences of a terror attack are very, very scary. They want to kill. They want to maim and terrify. It is my job to try to make sure that we are as safe as we can be.”
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Shifting gears away from Twittergate and trans-racislism for a moment for an interesting analytical piece...




Trump, Brexit, and Cambridge Analytica – not quite the dystopia you're looking for

Not EVIL, not FIRST, but yes... it's your data and they're using it

7 Mar 2017 at 11:22, SA Mathieson



According to a story doing the rounds, psychometric big data pushed Britain into Brexit and Trump on to America. The winning sides adopted a method developed at the University of Cambridge to psychometrically profile people by using publicly available data including Facebook "likes". They used these to create devastatingly effective digital advertising and targeted millions of voters' psychological traits.

The work was undertaken by Cambridge Analytica, a data analysis company backed by a Donald Trump-supporting billionaire, which acquired the Cambridge method from under the nose of its co-inventor Michal Kosinski. The story ends with Kosinski haunted by having revealed the existence of this digital, election-winning "bomb".

It's a cracking yarn, first told by Swiss publication Das Magazin, translated samizdat-style by a blog then republished by Vice's Motherboard. Its explanation of how Brexit and Trump may have used data to manipulate votes has been followed up by The Observer and The Times among others.

However, Kosinski's work develops ideas that have been around for decades. Cambridge Analytica, which offered to answer questions for this article but has not yet responded, has elsewhere denied using the methodology. And Kosinski believes micro-targeting based on online data could strengthen democracy, not cripple it.

In 2013, when working at the University of Cambridge's Psychometrics Centre, Kosinski co-authored a scientific paper showing that Facebook likes successfully predicted whether someone voted Democrat or Republican 85 per cent of the time, sexual orientation in 88 per cent of men and whether someone was African American or Caucasian American in 95 per cent of cases. Using data from more than 58,000 volunteers who provided their likes and took standard personality tests, the authors wrote that likes were nearly as good a guide to someone's openness as the test itself.


Theresa May – liberal and artistic

A versionn of this test is online here, with another that analyses language. The first 1,000 words of Conservative Prime Minister Theresa May's Brexit speech from January generates a 67 per cent openness rating, making her "liberal and artistic" rather than "conservative and traditional", and a 99 per cent score for her being a man.

To be fair, a political speech is a controlled and stylised piece of writing, and such predictions are much more likely to work based on what we do and say online day in, day out. Even though Facebook likes are no longer public, there are plenty of social media alternatives. "We're willingly leaving a lot of digital footprints that we don't really want to hide," Kosinski, now an assistant professor of organisational behaviour at Stanford Graduate School of Business, tells The Reg.

"What people don't realise is that this information that we willingly want to share is already more than enough for a good algorithm – and algorithms are quickly getting better – to reveal your intimate traits that perhaps you may not want to reveal, like your political views, religiosity, personality, IQ, sexual orientation and so on.

"What I think people have to understand is that going forward there's going to be less privacy and perhaps no privacy whatsoever. Instead of assuming that somehow we can get our privacy back, we should focus on shaping culture, societies and law to accommodate for the post-privacy future."

Using psychology to group people is not new.

Jon Morris, professor of advertising at the University of Florida, says that the concept of "early adopters" was first described by Everett Rogers in 1962, and electrocardiogram tests have been used since the 1950s. "Psychological profiling, using any kind of a device or any kind of questioning, may have become a little more sophisticated, but it's certainly been around forever in the life of advertising," he says.

He and other academics are similarly comfortable that people's votes are swayed by emotions and that you can get psychological insights from online data. Morris's research on voting has found emotions are about twice as important as facts, and that comparing data from FMRI brain-scanning and online surveys shows the latter do a good job in assessing traits.


Data's dirtier than you think

Andrew McStay, reader in advertising and digital media at Bangor University, has his doubts about the real-world applicability. "There are always huge promises of accuracy, but advertisers themselves tend to treat it – not sceptically as such, because they use it and they do buy into it, but I think they're slightly cautious," he says, with disappointing effectiveness ratings for supposedly targeted adverts.

"The technology industry might depict it as a perfect science, in reality the data is much dirtier than they sometimes suggest."

Kosinski acknowledges that advertising has used psychological grouping for decades, but believes the technique he demonstrated allows greater accuracy. "The resolution is higher. Instead of targeting people on a group level, the algorithms allow you to target people on the individual level."

Politicians can use it to bad ends, he agrees, but adds: "Lying to people and trying to scare them about others, or misinforming people using propaganda or discouraging people from voting – those are bad examples of political communication. Those bad and good examples of political communication are completely independent of the channel. You don't need digital targeting of your political messages to lie to people or discourage them voting. You can use traditional TV or a newspaper."

This is not quite the dystopian message of the Das Magazin article. "This article presents its authors' point of view," says Kosinski. "I share most of their opinions but not all. When it comes to the quotes from me, I think they're all accurate."

As to whether Cambridge Analytica drew on his work, he believes the company redeveloped ideas from his papers, noting the company's use in presentations of examples he used and its hiring of his PhD examiner, who had close knowledge of his work.

In the Motherboard article, Cambridge Analytica said it had no dealings with Kosinski, uses a different methodology, hardly used psychographics in the US election and did not attempt to discourage any Americans from voting.

Kosinski adds: "It doesn't really matter much if they were inspired by my work or stumbled on these ideas independently, I think. What matters is what they were doing and how they were going about it."


It's not all doom and gloom

Outside politics, he thinks that analysis of digital footprints could be used to match people with a job or an interesting book or to automate psychological diagnosis, making it accessible to many more people. Universities and employers could use it to search for scholarship and apprenticeship candidates who lack qualifications, looking for potential rather than how much families have spent on their children's education, opening access to "positions that before were given only to people who could show they graduated from Cambridge," he says.

Regardless of its other uses, some are worried by politicians using psychological profiling. Peter Kinderman, professor of clinical psychology at the University of Liverpool, notes that politicians have used psychological tricks throughout history. But if they want to use psychological profiling they should obtain informed consent, as scientific researchers and clinicians are required to do. "They should be honest and we should be aware."

Bangor's McStay says that informed consent for online psychological profiling is currently the exception, given that most web browsers accept and retain cookies by default. Martin Sykora, a lecturer in information management at Loughborough University whose research using Twitter predicted Trump's success, points out that many apps demand wide-ranging access to personal data as a condition of use. They don't explain why, so it can't be called informed consent. "Companies often don't seem to really bother with that too much and maybe should give it a bit more thought," Sykora says.

Kosinski argues it would be hard to ban politicians from using psychologically targeted messages, as companies could operate from other countries or find other ways around it. "Instead of banning particular methods of doing the bad thing, we should ban the bad thing itself," he says.

"If people are really concerned about discouraging people from voting, let's talk about how to enact policies or regulations or build technologies that protect people from being discouraged from going to vote, or let's just make voting obligatory."


Scapegoat?

As for Cambridge Analytica's work for Donald Trump, Kosinski says: "I think people are getting upset about it because they need a scapegoat. Back when Obama used similar methods just calling them different names, no liberals were losing their sleep. They also did not care when Hillary was spending way more money on personalised political marketing delivered by people way more competent than those working for Trump."

He believes that online personalised political messages can be more interesting and relevant than general ones, and the recipients are more competent to judge their quality. It also makes political communication far cheaper because it is highly efficient.

"One can enter the political race at much lower cost, and we could see that with Brexit, but also Trump and Bernie Sanders," Kosinski says. "It completely changes the economics of political targeting."

And it could allow politicians to reach groups who have previously been ignored and may not have bothered voting as a result. "With both Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders, they attracted huge followings among groups of people who previously were not politically active," Kosinski says.

"It's creating turbulence as we speak in different countries. But I think in the long term, if we can survive the turbulence now, it's actually great news for democracy that more people enter the dialogue and are being engaged."




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He believes that online personalised political messages can be more interesting and relevant than general ones, and the recipients are more competent to judge their quality. It also makes political communication far cheaper because it is highly efficient.
The one line that jumps out at me in all that was "and the recipients are more competent to judge their quality" likely should read 'and the recipients care enough about their government to actually research the quality of the message'.

Like many of those in academia, Kosinski believes the majority actually care enough to read or think. Not a knock on any ideology...
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here's a read:

How London attacker Khalid Masood snapped because of racism in his village - then went to jail and became radicalised

Khalid Masood, the Westminster attacker, snapped because of racism in his village and slashed the face of a cafe owner before being radicalised in jail.

that is not an opinion piece. White people at it again!
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So this happened yesterday. Thanks for that Republicans.
Senate Republicans Just Voted to Kill Internet Privacy | Vanity Fair

From health-care coverage to environmental protections, Republicans are moving quickly to erase Barack Obama’s presidential legacy. The latest Obama-era policy to be rolled back are guidelines protecting consumer Internet privacy. Last year, the Federal Communications Commission, under the direction of former Democratic chairman Tom Wheeler, mandated that broadband providers get their customers’ permission before selling or giving their data to advertisers and other third parties. On Thursday, the Senate voted along party lines, 50-48, to scrap those privacy rules, making it easier for broadband providers to share browsing history information about their customers.
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