yes and we can also create atom bombs and kill off our entire species
you must draw the line somewhere as to what is and is not natural

so i take it that is a no on the lifelong gay lions who refuse to mate with females?
just admit it you have made an unfair comparison here

i was being sarcastic when i said "no friggin way you gotta be kidding me"
you clearly missed my point
or at the least refuse to acknowledge it

are you saying that gays cant abuse their kids?
yes i know that you did not say that im just puttin words in your mouth now
im just saying you acknowledged that straights can be good and bad (as if i didnt already know that) but you haven't acknowledged that gays can be abusive as well

i understand that
do you understand that what i am trying to say is that for a species to survive it must reproduce.
without outside influence such as a disease nature doesn't intentionally produce living organisms that are incapable or reproduction

http://www.cleveland.com/naymik/inde...s_blow_vo.html

A recent audit and expanding investigation into Cleveland firefighters' timesheets and pay records suggest they need to be watched. The audit shows the fire department doesn't pay close attention to rules that allow firefighters to easily trade work shifts, take time off for funerals and call in sick. The result is a system that is being abused by at least a handful of firefighters.

Cleveland's firefighters are among the best and busiest, responsible for responding to emergencies from the top of Terminal Tower to the bottom of the Cuyahoga River, as they like to point out.

The public long has trusted them, but the audit has broken this bond and smeared the image of safety workers overall.

Cleveland's firefighters have only themselves to blame. The abuses should be insulting to the majority of the city's 800 firefighters and to voters.

One Cleveland firefighter, for instance, manipulated his schedule so he could commute from California. Another stacked his work schedule to allow him to vacation during the winter months. A couple of them got paid for more time than they worked.

I'm not ready to write this off simply as the consequence of sloppy paperwork or just a problem with a few firefighters. The larger culture and "past practices" deserves blame for enabling this.

The same tight fraternity of firefighters that is essential to fighting a blaze can't simultaneously be blind to its members' abuse of firehouse rules.

Without question, firefighters who work 24-hour shifts and then have 48 hours off need to be allowed to trade shifts to make family obligations such as kids' plays, graduations or weddings. It's easier for us 9-to-5 stiffs working in cubicles to make that happen. The trade rule, completely allowable under the contract, doesn't cost the city money.

But no one can argue that the rule was established to allow a firefighter such as Andrew Kovacic to do no work from Nov. 5, 2010 through March of this year. Nor was it designed to allow him to make up his time by working 24-hour shifts for 18 days during a three-week stretch in August. Firefighters who accept such a perverse use of the trade rule defeat their main argument that firefighters need rest between shifts for their own safety, the safety of their crew, and the safety of residents.

Work shifts shouldn't be manipulated at the expense of a crew's safety to accommodate firefighters' wishes to maintain out-of-state residences, aspirations to be snowbirds or plans to manage busy businesses on the side. Firefighters know that some of their colleagues have been doing exactly this for years.

While firefighters shoulder this mess, they are not entirely alone. The audit also points at the departments' five battalion chiefs, who monitor and sign off on timesheets. There's no way they could have been unaware of the unusual way some guys were trading shifts.

It's equally outrageous that Cleveland Mayor Frank Jackson publicly holds Fire Chief Paul Stubbs – the eyes and ears over the department -- blameless. The guy came up through the ranks and knows the culture.

He should have known, for instance, that the department failed to accurately track sick time. It's a big deal because firefighters get paid at retirement for one-third of the unused time they accrued on the job. The audit said that "based on the result of testing," 30 percent of the sick time hours paid out at retirement were incorrect. Paperwork is so screwed up that investigators can't put a dollar amount on the overpayments.

Jackson says that rising department overtime costs led to the audit. Overtime and abuse of shift trades are not necessarily related. Previous audits of the department were targeting overtime costs but barely mentioned shift trades. Why didn't previous city audits of the fire department fail flag the lack of organized paperwork?

Regardless of what triggered the latest audit, I still can't get over how the administration – in office for nearly seven years -- is only now taking an in-depth look at an $87 million payroll and its paperwork.

Jackson is putting caps on the job trades, and the city finally appears ready to create an automated or centralized computer system to track shift changes, which number in the thousands and are amazingly done by hand, a point firefighters have complained about in the past.

Ultimately, changes must come from the firefighters themselves.

They have a lot more at stake than their reputations.

If somebody abuses the system, of course they should be punished.

Many teachers aren't happy with there union right now, they do not allow for teacher to get promotions or raises based on job performance, but based on seniority, which of course is bullshit.

So, what I am saying is that the workers should have the freedom to do away with a union they do not like and replace them with organizations that are better for the workers and the tax payers.

Remember, if you want to attract good teachers, you've got to pay them well. Who the hell wants to get a masters degree, only to get a job that doesn't even pay $30K a year?

The City of Utica fire chief earns $73,440. Before leaving in March, the Utica police chief made $79,000. The Utica Community Schools has 36 gym teachers who earn more than the fire chief and 31 phys-ed teachers who earned more than the police chief.
...half of the district’s 52 gym teachers make more than $89,500 a year.

The City of Utica fire chief earns $73,440. Before leaving in March, the Utica police chief made $79,000. The Utica Community Schools has 36 gym teachers who earn more than the fire chief and 31 phys-ed teachers who earned more than the police chief.
...half of the district’s 52 gym teachers make more than $89,500 a year.