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#942
you're the one that supports it silly.
Seriously, I'm not in support of our current tax system. My proposed tax system makes everyone's brains melt that I talk to about it, but you know what? Here's the tax system I support.
A flat income (Not sales, income) tax that is Capital Gains. Any income you get is taxed based on cap gains. That's it. Everyone pays the same. There's a bit more, but suggesting I support our current tax system is insanity.
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A flat income (Not sales, income) tax that is Capital Gains. Any income you get is taxed based on cap gains. That's it. Everyone pays the same. There's a bit more, but suggesting I support our current tax system is insanity.
it eliminates preferences. (credits, loopholes, etc)
no double taxation. (death, captial gains, savings, dividines)
it treats everyone fairly. real fair, not beaucratic fair. and it minimizies penalties on productive behavior. equal justice under law.
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But in this case, the obvious left/right thing was synonymous with rich vs. poor. That's part of what makes it such an Epic Chart, and it's not even based on trickery or lies - the facts came from a conservative think tank!
I'm more found of a national sales tax only, with no chance of an income tax, but why would that make my brain melt. that's 100% fair.
it eliminates preferences. (credits, loopholes, etc)
no double taxation. (death, captial gains, savings, dividines)
it treats everyone fairly. real fair, not beaucratic fair. and it minimizies penalties on productive behavior. equal justice under law.
it eliminates preferences. (credits, loopholes, etc)
no double taxation. (death, captial gains, savings, dividines)
it treats everyone fairly. real fair, not beaucratic fair. and it minimizies penalties on productive behavior. equal justice under law.
Eliminate all welfare. Eliminate all subsidy programs everywhere (IDGAF if it's gasoline, crops, or your ----------ing EBT). US Citizens who file a tax return receive a rebate back equal to one half to three quarters (If married) of the poverty line - even if they paid less in taxes. US Gov't provides a basic level of universal health care to everyone, similar to Medicaid now (If you want better health care though, you have to get private insurance.). US Gov't establishes a program that the states administrate allowing those who can prove medical need (Blind, paralyzed, etc.) to receive medically-relevant aid.
It manages to offend everyone.
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- That graph is
exactlysimilar to what is happening with Europe except that they lack the fiscal union, central treasury and automatic transfer mechanisms. I've made reference to it before. - Some of the states listed as "blue" are really better defined as "purple" or swing states.
- Some states have swapped locations based on the current recession.
- It occurs to me that the graph may not be as useful without also including things like interstate trade deficits.
- To Brainy's point, although it is not a 100% correlation
#946
but i cant respect an opinion that serves to destroy something of mine,against my will, particularly an unborn child
if this sounds ridiculous to you then u should hear yourself talk
i dont expect u to understand
after all you think it is ok to literally kill babies
i said it before and will say it again
there are consequence to lifes actions
only a big wimp runs away from his kid and leaves him high and dry like that.
under current law you have no say so if she has an abortion
therefore it is a fact that a child is a risk of conception for you
just because one wishes to lead a lifestyle where they can run away from the consequences of their actions doesn't make it ok
you know exactly what i meant
killing someone who did nothing to deserve it
dont come at me with your "a ******* isn't sexual" arguement
thats just ridiculous
brain said it very well when he asked you how you would feel about being euthanized
and thinking about that alone should help someone understand why our founding fathers were in pursuit of liberty and not "the greater good"
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You know, I've recently had a discussion on the topic of illegal immigration, and a massive---------lightbulb went off in my head.
Why are we so focused on illegal aliens in the first place? Trying to deport them and do all this is like playing whack a mole. We should be addressing the issue that makes them come over here.
And the gov't has tools to do that. But they would have to actively prosecute businesses that employ illegal aliens. This prosecution is incredibly rare. Prosecute a business that employs hundreds of illegal aliens, or try to hunt down and catch hundreds of illegal aliens? It seems pretty ------- obvious what the choice should be.
Sadly, the cynical side of me wants to admit the gov't does it intentionally, to justify more and more invasion into people's personal lives, and to make it a big voting issue to get more votes.
Why are we so focused on illegal aliens in the first place? Trying to deport them and do all this is like playing whack a mole. We should be addressing the issue that makes them come over here.
And the gov't has tools to do that. But they would have to actively prosecute businesses that employ illegal aliens. This prosecution is incredibly rare. Prosecute a business that employs hundreds of illegal aliens, or try to hunt down and catch hundreds of illegal aliens? It seems pretty ------- obvious what the choice should be.
Sadly, the cynical side of me wants to admit the gov't does it intentionally, to justify more and more invasion into people's personal lives, and to make it a big voting issue to get more votes.
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The government is already doing something. It is devaluing the dollar and turning us into a third world country. The rate of exchange has changed drastically with many countries and many no longer look to the dollar as being more stable. Their citizens used to look at the US as the best place on earth to be. Now they stay home and start their own businesses in thriving economies.
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i dont expect u to understand
after all you think it is ok to literally kill babies
the man did consent to the posibility of having a child by sticking his ***** inside of her
i said it before and will say it again
there are consequence to lifes actions
only a big wimp runs away from his kid and leaves him high and dry like that.
#952
yes we are entitled to our opinions
the main thing i am trying to show you is how you are wrong in saying that
and btw obviously more people that just me carry the opinion that someone is a POS if they run away from the consequences of their actions
ie: unexpected child
and the reason why i have been ignoring your "talk about abortion before your one night stand" issue is this
yes of course i dont intend on having sex with women who believe in abortions, but there is nothing to stop her from changing her opinion before the actual abortion occurs
and no i do not intend on signing a legally binding contract before intercourse
is that what you do?
not a pre-nup but a pre-*** lol
#956
oh my gosh
i totally understand that her uterus is hers
but an unborn child in it is half mine
perhaps i should charge her for my sperm?
ya know if i accidently knock her up and i want an abortion and she doesn't
lmao you guys crack me up
edit: i have already made my point now i am just going overboard. unless specifically asked a question i will shut up on this topic
i totally understand that her uterus is hers
but an unborn child in it is half mine
perhaps i should charge her for my sperm?
ya know if i accidently knock her up and i want an abortion and she doesn't
lmao you guys crack me up
edit: i have already made my point now i am just going overboard. unless specifically asked a question i will shut up on this topic
#958
I do actually understand your discontent about a woman having the ability to take the life of your child
I have also known women that "changed their mind" on abortion, once the child was theirs - hormonal changes during pregnancy do funny things to a woman's mental state.
Lastly, I have two friends who have had abortions. One of them, while married to the father, claims it is the largest mistake she has ever made in her life, but she also says she is glad that she was allowed to make that mistake herself, because it gave her a new view on life. Her second pregnancy was to a run-away father, and I would gladly put my fist through the back of his face, given the chance, but she stayed with it, and now has a clingy "momma's boy". She wouldn't trade him for the world.
I have also known women that "changed their mind" on abortion, once the child was theirs - hormonal changes during pregnancy do funny things to a woman's mental state.
Lastly, I have two friends who have had abortions. One of them, while married to the father, claims it is the largest mistake she has ever made in her life, but she also says she is glad that she was allowed to make that mistake herself, because it gave her a new view on life. Her second pregnancy was to a run-away father, and I would gladly put my fist through the back of his face, given the chance, but she stayed with it, and now has a clingy "momma's boy". She wouldn't trade him for the world.
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The government is already doing something. It is devaluing the dollar and turning us into a third world country. The rate of exchange has changed drastically with many countries and many no longer look to the dollar as being more stable. Their citizens used to look at the US as the best place on earth to be. Now they stay home and start their own businesses in thriving economies.
The average Chinese or Indian citizen would see a huge increase in their standard of living by moving up to the average Mexican's standard of living, which is still well below the average American's.
Again, take all of those comparisons with a tablespoon full of salt. Health care reform is a particular topic of interest for me and I have several books on my shelf waiting to be read on the subject. We have already discussed the differences in definition/measurement of statistics like "life expectancy" between countries.
The average spending also has to take in to account the availability of certain health care. For example, some of the drugs and procedures available in the USA might be wildly expensive and not available in other countries (or not performed as successfuly). Thus, Person A with some life-threatening disease might spend a large sum of money in the USA and the Person B in other nations might either be denied access to those procedures or they might not be available.
That would translate to the USA having a higher average health care spending per person.
Likewise, that table includes all public and private health care spending - including hospitals and infrastructure. If you compare the Winnie Palmer facility to a brick hospital from the 1800s, that will also skew the results.