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Old 04-12-2012, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Braineack
EBT cards in general bother me. I just had no idea one could withdraw cash form them. that makes it even worse. As there is supossed to be "limit" in what types of products you can buy with them...but we all know that's not the case.

or am i confusing welfare payments and food stamps?
Why does it matter at all? It doesn't matter if you limit purchases to food and non-alcoholic beverages (like SNAP funds) or not at all (like cash benefits). The recipient uses the benefits for food or whatever, and then uses his own money (previously budgeted for food) on whatever his heart desires.

There are plenty of reasons to questions the utility of government benefits, but unrestricted purchases isn't one of them. You're increasing the recipients overall budget, and he or she will find ways to adjust their spending in the categories they want, regardless of whatever "restrictions" you put on their purchases with those benefits.
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Old 04-12-2012, 11:13 AM
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Old 04-12-2012, 11:14 AM
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Old 04-12-2012, 11:21 AM
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EBT card recipients SHOULD have restrictions. Chances are, they already have somehow proven they cant make important decisions for themselves, so, since we carry them, we should tell them what they can/can't spend it on.

My dollar is my dollar, no matter who's ------- hand its in. That's how I feel at least.

Let these ----------ers earn their own and then they can decide what they want to waste it on.
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Originally Posted by Vashthestampede
EBT card recipients SHOULD have restrictions. Chances are, they already have somehow proven they cant make important decisions for themselves, so, since we carry them, we should tell them what they can/can't spend it on.
It's fine to feel that way, but you're not going to stop them from using it how they please.

Does it really make you feel better if they have to a $100 EBT card on food, and then spend their new personal surplus of $100 on beer?
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Old 04-12-2012, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by mgeoffriau
It's fine to feel that way, but you're not going to stop them from using it how they please.

Does it really make you feel better if they have to a $100 EBT card on food, and then spend their new personal surplus of $100 on beer?
Yeah, you cant necessarily tell them how to spend it, but you should be able to tell the merchants how to accept it.

A guy goes into the supermarket for food that's one thing, but alcohol and cigarettes shouldn't even be considered. No matter what kind of "government card" it comes off of.

Can you really withdraw cash at ATM's with these cards? If so, that's outrageously ------- ridiculous.
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You're not addressing the real issue -- purchase restrictions (no matter whether it applies to the consumer or vendor) do nothing but force a simple budgetary shift. Spend this money here, spend that money there.

If you don't like the idea of "your money" being spent how the recipient desires, then you should be against government benefits entirely, because purchase restrictions do nothing to address the issue.

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Originally Posted by FRT_Fun
Buying votes.
I don't think people w/ EBT cards, food stamps or welfare are big on voting.
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Originally Posted by Shearhead_3:16
I don't think people w/ EBT cards, food stamps or welfare are big on voting.
You kidding? With all the handouts they got from Obama they'd be crazy not to try and keep him in office. Trust me, they vote.
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I love all this Ann Romney ----.

I keep looking but see nothing, apparently she's never had a professional job as an adult as I can tell.
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Old 04-12-2012, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Vashthestampede
You kidding? With all the handouts they got from Obama they'd be crazy not to try and keep him in office. Trust me, they vote.
They've been getting various forms of welfare from many Presidents, not just Obama.
If somebody is too lazy to get a job, more then likely they are too lazy to vote.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
Geroge Zimmerman worked hard too.
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Originally Posted by hustler
Geroge Zimmerman worked hard too.

you probably saw this live but:

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Originally Posted by Shearhead_3:16
They've been getting various forms of welfare from many Presidents, not just Obama.
If somebody is too lazy to get a job, more then likely they are too lazy to vote.
Staying on the government tit becomes their job buddy.

While Obama didn't start government handouts, he sure as ---- made it a hell of a lot easier to get on them and stay on them.
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Originally Posted by Vashthestampede
My dollar is my dollar, no matter who's ------- hand its in. That's how I feel at least.
It's the government's dollar, not yours.

This is where your tax dollars actually go.


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Originally Posted by Vashthestampede
Staying on the government tit becomes their job buddy.
Don't get pissy, you know what I meant.

Originally Posted by Vashthestampede
While Obama didn't start government handouts, he sure as ---- made it a hell of a lot easier to get on them and stay on them.
How?
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Originally Posted by Braineack
you probably saw this live but:

The View is unwatchable. Maybe later after I shoot heroin or something.
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