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Old 08-08-2012, 09:16 AM   #2641
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some people abuse it, the scarry thing is most are legitimately eligable. The scarrer thing is, only 75% of the people who can recieve food stamps are enrolled...


It's kinda like when you go to someone's house and they have a poorly trained, mis-behaived dog. It doesn't listen, jumps on you, begs at the table. It's not the dog's fault, it was trained to be this way. The owners do little to stop/curb the bad behavior, as far as REWARDING it.

Actually, no, it's more like the badminton players that got kicked out of the oylimpics. Here they are, the best of the best, working to do the worst. Because they know that they can recieve a reward for failing, by playing against a worse team in the finals. When you reward failure, you do not get people's fullest, you get their worse. You encourage and reward failure. It's a pathedic and cancerous system.

If entitlements worked, the world shouldn't be as bad off as it is. This great country should have become even more great, but alas, were are declining. And what's sad is, the ones that are spreading the cancer, want to fix the problem by apply radioactive poisionous goo all over the wounds in order to "cure" it. And then complain we are living in Idiotcracy when things don't get better, but worse.

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If entitlements worked, the world shouldn't be as bad off as it is. This great country should have become even more great, but alas, were are declining.
Out of curiousity, how are you defining the country becoming "even more great" or "declining?"
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Not only do you not have to work, you don't even need to be a citizen...

The Obama Administration Pays Illegal Aliens to Come Here | Power Line

A few tidbits from the IG’s report:

* In one instance, four illegal aliens fraudulently claimed that 20 children lived with them in the same trailer and received from the IRS $29,608 in ACTC refunds. The children claimed did not even live in the U.S.

* The Inspector General recommended that, “Legislation should be considered to require a Social Security Number in order to be eligible for the ACTC, consistent with the requirements for the Earned Income Tax Credit… As it now stands, the payment of Federal funds through this tax benefit appears to provide an additional incentive for aliens to enter, reside, and work in the U.S. without authorization, which contradicts Federal law and policy to remove such incentives.”

Republican Senators proposed such legislation, but Harry Reid refused to allow it to come to the Senate floor for a vote. So at the same time that the United States is going broke, with $16 trillion in debt, we are bribing people from all over the world, illegally as well as legally, to enjoy federal benefits at taxpayer expense. And Barack Obama and Harry Reid refuse to permit anything to be done, even to the extent of limiting blatant fraud.
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interesting take on how Obama wins elections:

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Mitt Romney presents one enormous problem for Barack Obama's campaign: No divorce records. That's why the media are so hot to get their hands on Romney's tax records for the past 25 years. They need something to "pick through, distort and lie about" -- as the Republican candidate says.

Obama's usual campaign method, used in 100 percent of his races, has been to pry into the private records of his opponents.

Democrats aren't going to find any personal dirt on the clean-cut Mormon, so they need complicated tax filings going back decades in order to create the illusion of scandal out of boring financial records.

Romney has already released his 2010 tax return and is about to release his 2011 return. After all the huffing and puffing by the media demanding those returns, the follow-up story vanished remarkably quickly when the only thing the return showed was that Romney pays millions of dollars in taxes and gives a lot of money to charity.

Let's take a romp down memory lane and review the typical Obama campaign strategy. Obama became a U.S. senator only by virtue of David Axelrod's former employer, the Chicago Tribune, ripping open the sealed divorce records of Obama's two principal opponents.

One month before the 2004 Democratic primary for the U.S. Senate, Obama was down in the polls, about to lose to Blair Hull, a multimillionaire securities trader. But then the Chicago Tribune leaked the claim that Hull's second ex-wife, Brenda Sexton, had sought an order of protection against him during their 1998 divorce proceedings.

Those records were under seal, but as The New York Times noted: "The Tribune reporter who wrote the original piece later acknowledged in print that the Obama camp had 'worked aggressively behind the scenes' to push the story." Many people said Axelrod had "an even more significant role -- that he leaked the initial story."

Both Hull and his ex-wife opposed releasing their sealed divorce records, but they finally relented in response to the media's hysteria -- 18 days before the primary. Hull was forced to spend four minutes of a debate detailing the abuse allegation in his divorce papers, explaining that his ex-wife "kicked me in the leg and I hit her shin to try to get her to not continue to kick me."



After having held a substantial lead just a month before the primary, Hull's campaign collapsed with the chatter about his divorce. Obama sailed to the front of the pack and won the primary. Hull finished third with 10 percent of the vote.

As luck would have it, Obama's opponent in the general election had also been divorced! Jack Ryan was tall, handsome, Catholic -- and shared a name with one of Harrison Ford's most popular onscreen characters! He went to Dartmouth, Harvard Law and Harvard Business School, made hundreds of millions of dollars as a partner at Goldman Sachs, and then, in his early 40s, left investment banking to teach at an inner city school on the South Side of Chicago.

Ryan would have walloped Obama in the Senate race. But at the request of -- again -- the Chicago Tribune, California Judge Robert Schnider unsealed the custody papers in Ryan's divorce five years earlier from Hollywood starlet Jeri Lynn Ryan, the bombshell Borg on "Star Trek: Voyager."

Jack Ryan had released his tax records. He had released his divorce records. But both he and his ex-wife sought to keep the custody records under seal to protect their son.

Amid the 400 pages of filings from the custody case, Jack Ryan claimed that his wife had had an affair, and she counterclaimed with the allegation that he had taken her to "sex clubs" in Paris, New York and New Orleans, which drove her to fall in love with another man.

(Republicans: If you plan a career in public office, please avoid marrying a wacko.)

Ryan had vehemently denied her allegations at the time, but it didn't matter. The sex club allegations aired on "Entertainment Tonight," "NBC Nightly News," ABC's "Good Morning America," "The Tonight Show With Jay Leno," and NBC's "Today" show. CNN covered the story like it was the first moon landing.

(Interestingly, international papers also were ablaze with the story -- the same newspapers that were supposed to be so bored with American sexual mores during Bill Clinton's sex scandal.)

Four days after Judge Schnider unsealed the custody records, Ryan dropped out of the race for the horror of (allegedly) propositioning his own wife and then taking "no" for an answer.

Alan Keyes stepped in as a last-minute Republican candidate.

And that's how Obama became a U.S. senator. He destroyed both his Democratic primary opponent and his Republican general election opponent with salacious allegations about their personal lives taken from "sealed" court records.

Obama's team delved into Sarah Palin's marriage and spread rumors of John McCain's alleged affair in 2008 and they smeared Herman Cain in 2011 with hazy sexual harassment allegations all emanating from David Axelrod's pals in Chicago.

It's almost like a serial killer's signature. Unsealed personal records have been released to the press. Obama must be running for office!

So you can see what a pickle the Obama campaign is in having to run against a Dudley Do-Right, non-drinking, non-smoking, God-fearing, happily married Mormon.

They've got to get their hands on thousands of pages of Romney's tax filings so that the media can -- as Romney says -- lie about them. It will be interesting to see if Obama can pick the lock of the famously guarded IRS.
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Wow. way to take things out of context bro. Lolol



Pretty disgusting if you ask me.
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Bryan Fischer: Children Of Same-Sex Couples Must Be Saved Through 'Underground Railroad' Kidnapping

Incoming, enterprise-grade derp.

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United States Budget Dilemma.wmv - YouTube

Gotta love this guy's monotone voice, but the message is pretty powerful--and non-partisan.

However, I am partisan. The next time you hear some pundit say "Well Romney's plan will add $2 trillion to the debt!" now you'll know why.
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Old 08-09-2012, 01:19 PM   #2649
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minority report:

NYPD unveils new $40 million super computer system that uses data from network of cameras, license plate readers and crime reports - NY Daily News

ill lol when we find out that 40 million dollar computer is just three kids that can see the futue.
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Fast and Furious scandal not what you think it is

tl;dr -- Mexican drug cartel member alleges that the Fast and Furious operation was not about tracking illegal guns, but actually just a straight up supply of firepower to a cartel for intel on the illegal drug trade and other cartels. Additionally, he claims that his cartel was also allowed by the US Government to move tons of drugs across the border in exchange for continued intel.
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Old 08-09-2012, 03:32 PM   #2651
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how to reduce the number of democratic voters:

More Abandoned Children as Europe Austerity Wears On - Business News - CNBC

remove their money.
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"I am bringing him to court, and we're going to defend the Constitution of the United States and the separation of power. He has prosecutorial discretion, but he does not have the ability to grant blanket amnesty to entire classes of people.”

-Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa)
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Remember folks, big business is greedy and corrupt and evil -- except for the big business of Hollywood:

"now taxpayers in the near-bankrupt state of California are on the hook for a cool $100 million that will feather the nest of movie stars, fat studios, and gajillioniare producers everywhere:

The California state Assembly Appropriations Committee has unanimously approved a bill extending the state’s film and television tax credit program for an additional two years, the LA Times reports. The current extension of the program that allocates $100 million yearly in credits expires next year."
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tl;dr -- Mexican drug cartel member alleges that the Fast and Furious operation was not about tracking illegal guns, but actually just a straight up supply of firepower to a cartel for intel on the illegal drug trade and other cartels. Additionally, he claims that his cartel was also allowed by the US Government to move tons of drugs across the border in exchange for continued intel.
It certainly seems plausible, but the conspiracy theorist in me tends to think that there's no way this guy would make it to court if any of it was true and/or proveable. I have so little faith in "the system," that I assume - even if true - nothing significant will come of it. :(
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Non union members beware:

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Remember folks, big business is greedy and corrupt and evil -- except for the big business of Hollywood:

"now taxpayers in the near-bankrupt state of California are on the hook for a cool $100 million that will feather the nest of movie stars, fat studios, and gajillioniare producers everywhere:

The California state Assembly Appropriations Committee has unanimously approved a bill extending the state’s film and television tax credit program for an additional two years, the LA Times reports. The current extension of the program that allocates $100 million yearly in credits expires next year."
California really is living the second term of Obama--he doesn't even need to win. The wonderful town of Poway in San Diego County recently placed a $105 million bond in order to update their aging schools. The big brains chose a 40 year schedule that upon final payment will cost the taxpayers over $900 million. Sheer stupidity on scales large and small.

Perhaps the bullet train will stop there...
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I dont know if this belongs in the Rover thread or here or the picture thread but :P

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Remember folks, big business is greedy and corrupt and evil -- except for the big business of Hollywood:

"now taxpayers in the near-bankrupt state of California are on the hook for a cool $100 million that will feather the nest of movie stars, fat studios, and gajillioniare producers everywhere:

The California state Assembly Appropriations Committee has unanimously approved a bill extending the state’s film and television tax credit program for an additional two years, the LA Times reports. The current extension of the program that allocates $100 million yearly in credits expires next year."
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California really is living the second term of Obama--he doesn't even need to win.
So, you guys would be in favor of raising taxes on job creators?
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Let's just give this a try, just once: Cut "mandatory" spending programs first, then see if we need to raise taxes.
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Let's just give this a try, just once: Cut "mandatory" spending programs first, then see if we need to raise taxes.
That snippet you posted is bitching about a tax credit (aka "tax loophole" aka "tax break" aka "tax reduction"). Eliminating it would be a tax increase.
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