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Old 07-05-2013, 03:47 PM   #4501
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Teachers get mad *****.
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Recovery woes: America's second-largest employer is a temp agency | WashingtonExaminer.com

101M Get Food Aid from Federal Gov



"Number one America" was a slogan used
to keep morale up when we knew we were already cooked,
Then the richer western states
succeeded in secession and the eastern ones followed right behind.
Mexi-Can-America was the perfect name
that epitomized the order of significance, authority and affluence.
We had turned it all around, went from number one, straight to number two (****).

We called it America...
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Braineak...all these NEGATIVE posts about the government. I take it that you're not getting FREE STUFF?
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free, no. stuff, yes.
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Old 07-09-2013, 01:21 PM   #4507
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So in short we have the longest record of 7.5% + unemployment ever, more people on foodstamps than are working full time (over 100 million), crushing debt that equals more than other debt combined, a Nobel Peace prize-winning president with his own pet prison and a drone program that has killed thousands of non-combatants, an NSA program that literally grabs EVERY electronic message that we type and filters it for word the government doesn't like, and universal healthcare that omits about 30 million people and is being implemented not by the rules of the law but by the whim of the president.

What's worse, there are still some really, really brain dead people who still support him. I guess that's the real meaning of "Zombie Apocalypse".
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in short, yes.
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I make over $50k a year. I have absolutely no debt. I put money into IRA accounts each year for retirement and my company contributes to my 401k.

How come my standard of living is worse now than when I was young, had a mortgage and making half the money?
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Old 07-09-2013, 01:40 PM   #4510
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I make over $50k a year. I have absolutely no debt. I put money into IRA accounts each year for retirement and my company contributes to my 401k.

How come my standard of living is worse now than when I was young, had a mortgage and making half the money?
Tell me in what ways your standard of living is worse and the approximate years in which you had a mortgage and half your present income and I can probably give you some reasonable causes.
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I make over $50k a year. I have absolutely no debt. I put money into IRA accounts each year for retirement and my company contributes to my 401k.

How come my standard of living is worse now than when I was young, had a mortgage and making half the money?
Isn't that the truth. When the government controls what money is worth, $50k is just a number. Will we see $10/gallon gas in the next 10 years?

Here in California I'm making the same, but our electricity bill goes up 10-12% every year, gas prices are ridiculous ($4.12/gallon yesterday), my health insurance has gone up 38% last year, state taxes have shot up, food prices keep rising and there's no end in sight.
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I have 65" TV. my standard of living is pretty bausmode.
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I make over $50k a year. I have absolutely no debt. I put money into IRA accounts each year for retirement and my company contributes to my 401k.

How come my standard of living is worse now than when I was young, had a mortgage and making half the money?
Because your aren't being honest?

I make about twice what I did when I graduated college and got my first real job (May '06). My SOL is DRAMATICALLY better than it was then, and I have a mortgage as well, save a ton more, put more in retirement.

I also have a self-employed wife who makes as much as I do. We live in a very small house relative to our income, and don't have any kids.
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I make over $50k a year. I have absolutely no debt. I put money into IRA accounts each year for retirement and my company contributes to my 401k.

How come my standard of living is worse now than when I was young, had a mortgage and making half the money?
Because kids?
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Just a 9 year old. Doesn't take a lot of resources at this point.
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Yesterday I ordered parts for my clothes washer; today they came and I installed them already. Now I can wash my unmentionables.
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Just a 9 year old. Doesn't take a lot of resources at this point.
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Tell me in what ways your standard of living is worse and the approximate years in which you had a mortgage and half your present income and I can probably give you some reasonable causes.
I am genuinely curious about this. I think there could be significant ways in which your standard of living ARE worse than they were when you were younger and had debt.

I would also not be surprised if you think things now are worse than they are or you are remembering the past through the rosy lenses of nostalgia. Or, that your "worse" standard of living is primarily based on your choices. e.g. You could be more frugal now.
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Hey guys, lets play: A simple test in common sense economics!


Would you rather get paid $8.25 an hour or $0.00 an hour?

follow up: Would you consider $8.25 an hour a living wage or $0.00 an hour a living wage?



































Wal-Mart says it will pull out of D.C. plans should city mandate ‘living wage’ - The Washington Post
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Hey guys, lets play: A simple test in common sense economics!


Would you rather get paid $8.25 an hour or $0.00 an hour?

follow up: Would you consider $8.25 an hour a living wage or $0.00 an hour a living wage?


Wal-Mart says it will pull out of D.C. plans should city mandate ‘living wage’ - The Washington Post
To be fair, in most communities doesn't Wal-Mart low wages contribute to more gov't dependence through the use of food stamps and welfare? Thereby putting a larger burden on the tax base of the communities in which they operate?

I mean look at Costco, they seem to do fine while paying decent wages and the CEO not taking millions upon millions a year.


(Libertarian who refuses to shop at Wal-Mart here)
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To be fair, in most communities doesn't Wal-Mart low wages contribute to more gov't dependence through the use of food stamps and welfare? Thereby putting a larger burden on the tax base of the communities in which they operate?
How would that tax base burden compare to the burden imposed if those same Wal-Mart workers had no job at all?
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