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Old 07-18-2013, 10:30 AM   #4561
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They should do that down here in the land of fried foods.

Nothing is more digusting than listening to an enormously overweight person huff and puff because they just had to walk 50ft down the hallway to the conference room for a meeting.

It's really sad how many people on the elevator to come up to the Engineering floor............we are on the 2nd floor.
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Old 07-18-2013, 10:38 AM   #4562
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While I think that regulation is stupid I don't really see the bid deal besides the added cost when renovating. Its not like he banned or in anyway limited access to elevators. He is just making the stairs seem friendlier. I doubt it will actually change behavior but its far from a nanny state move.
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I have to say I am kind of torn on this. Primarily, this is "a new initiative [...] aimed at encouraging office workers to take the stairs instead of waiting for the elevator. Under legislation proposed by the mayor, all new buildings and buildings undergoing major renovation would be required to give occupants access to at least one stairwell, as well as post signs near elevators pointing to nearby stairs."

On one hand, I think having more access to useable stairwells would be a nice feature. I personally cannot use the stairs in my office building because the doors on each floor are locked from inside the stairwell. That is, you can enter the stairwell from the floor you are on, but the door locks behind you. Once in the stairwell, you can only exit at the ground floor.


On the other hand, I tend to chafe at things being mandated (like the signage) and can imagine it added cost and headaches for architects for something that ultimately won't get used a lot in many highrises. I'm over ten floors up and I would wager that less than 20% of the people on this floor would make that hike - and we have a number of fitness oriented people on this floor.

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Someone please point me to the clause in the Constitution (state or fed level) where this stuff is the business of government at all.

Taking the stairs? Good.
Gov't mandated? Very bad.
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Someone please point me to the clause in the Constitution (state or fed level) where this stuff is the business of government at all.
well actually, the 10th...

it gives the powers to the state or people...

and people love to give up freedom and control for some obamaphones.
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Someone please point me to the clause in the Constitution (state or fed level) where this stuff is the business of government at all.

Taking the stairs? Good.
Gov't mandated? Very bad.
Just to be clear, no government agent is mandating that anyone must take the stairs.

The government is trying to mandate the availability of useable and accessible stairwells for those people that wish to use them. At most, the govt is trying to mandate signage and some changes to doors.
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im trying to figure out what building doesn't already by code, require the above -- minus the signage and opened door.
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im trying to figure out what building doesn't already by code, require the above -- minus the signage and opened door.
That's pretty much it. The author of that article is apparently opposed to open doors and signs which indicate that a door is open.
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im trying to figure out what building doesn't already by code, require the above -- minus the signage and opened door.
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I personally cannot use the stairs in my office building because the doors on each floor are locked from inside the stairwell. That is, you can enter the stairwell from the floor you are on, but the door locks behind you. Once in the stairwell, you can only exit at the ground floor.
Read your own thread. I'm so sick of having to spoonfeed you lazy, liberal, socialist Millenials!


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New York food stamp recipients are shipping welfare-funded groceries to relatives in Jamaica, Dominican Republic, Haiti - NYPOST.com

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Jay Carney: In fact, comprehensive immigration reform--I'm sure this is of interest to at least one reporter--would significantly reduce our deficit, would expand economic growth, would raise wages--

[Audible laughter--one female reporter's voice heard apologizing for the laughter]

Carney: --and would enhance our, you know, the creation of innovative businesses.
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yeah this won't get abused. Don't you think people who don't want scrutiny would be willing to pay the $85 fee?
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A part of history rarely discussed and even more rarely appreciated by North Americans:
[W]e swung in towards the centre and started to enter a city devastated beyond all comprehension. It was more than appalling. As far as the eye could see, square mile after square mile of empty shells of buildings with twisted girders scarecrowed in the air, radiators of a flat jutting out from a shaft of a still-standing wall, like a crucified pterodactyl skeleton.

Horrible, hideous shapes of chimneys sprouting from the frame of a wall. The whole pervaded by an atmosphere of ageless quiet ... Such impressions are incomprehensible unless seen.

Imagine a world without institutions. No governments. No school or universities. No access to any information. No banks. Money no longer has any worth. There are no shops, because no one has anything to sell.

Law and order are virtually non-existent because there is no police force and no judiciary. Men with weapons roam the streets taking what they want. Women of all classes and ages prostitute themselves for food and protection.
This is Continental Europe in the aftermath of WWII.

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