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Old 12-10-2014, 10:15 PM   #5201
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Wow that is so crazy. Not only should we be able to carry cameras also police should wear one while on duty.
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Old 12-11-2014, 01:42 AM   #5203
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Not just that but they should be uploaded directly to the web on a public server.
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Old 12-11-2014, 09:34 AM   #5204
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even if they passed it, it would get struck down.

the supreme court has already ruled on it, and federal law trumps state.
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Old 12-11-2014, 02:45 PM   #5205
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The Eric Garner case.. the cop that suffocated him didnt get ****.. the only person that got charged was the guy with the camera from 30 feet away.
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The Eric Garner case.. the cop that suffocated him didnt get ****.. the only person that got charged was the guy with the camera from 30 feet away.
Misleading half-truth: The guy who recorded the death of Eric Garner was arrested.

Whole truth: Ramsey Orta, a thug with a long list of prior convictions including armed robbery, was arrested three weeks after the killing of Eric Garner, in a completely unrelated encounter, for possession of a stolen handgun.
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Old 12-11-2014, 03:59 PM   #5207
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And we've already established that criminals don't have rights. Eric Garner was selling black market cigarettes when confronted, he refused to ID, resisted, and died in the struggle.
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Old 12-11-2014, 05:57 PM   #5208
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And we've already established that criminals don't have rights.
If only. Prisons should be more like dungeons in a lot of cases. Would sure simplify things.
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Old 12-11-2014, 05:59 PM   #5209
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by WE i meant Joe P.

Prisons should be cleared of about 80% of their inmates. Would sure simplify things.

Also, more kids should have households in which they grow up with two married parents.
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That's racist.
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I'm just glad the threat of loose cigarettes is finally being taken seriously.
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Old 12-11-2014, 07:28 PM   #5212
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Garner died of a heart attack because poverty caused by the white man forced Big Macs down his throat all of his life.
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I'm just glad the threat of loose cigarettes is finally being taken seriously.
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And we've already established that criminals don't have rights.

(time passes)

by WE i meant Joe P.
When I first saw you saying things like this (eg: ironically implying that criminals have all of the same rights as citizens), I assumed that you were being sarcastic.

As time has passed and the argument has remained essentially static, I begin to wonder if you (meaning all liberal extremists, not just you specifically) don't perceive reality in the same way as the rest of us.
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I'm just glad the threat of loose cigarettes is finally being taken seriously.
The irony here is not inconsiderable.
Potheads: You should, like, legalize marijuana and then tax it, man. That'd be like, a super way to reduce crime, ya know?

mgeoffriau: See how taxing tobacco causes violence and death?
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The irony here is not inconsiderable.
Not really.

Last edited by mgeoffriau; 12-11-2014 at 11:52 PM. Reason: Because I was so damn irritated the first time I responded.
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When I first saw you saying things like this (eg: ironically implying that criminals have all of the same rights as citizens), I assumed that you were being sarcastic.

As time has passed and the argument has remained essentially static, I begin to wonder if you (meaning all liberal extremists, not just you specifically) don't perceive reality in the same way as the rest of us.
criminals have all the same rights as you and me, except for felony disenfranchisement, jury selection, and firearm ownership.

i realize that their rights aren't always protected, like the right to breathe. hands up.
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criminals have all the same rights as you and me, except for felony disenfranchisement, jury selection, and firearm ownership.
And, you know, also the rights to life and liberty.

But those are, admittedly, small points as compared to not being allowed to serve on a jury.
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if convicted, and sentenced to either death or incarceration.

otherwise...
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if convicted, and sentenced to either death or incarceration.

otherwise...
So you're saying that it should be illegal to arrest anyone, because an arrest is a deprivation of liberty without a conviction.
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