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Old 11-05-2015, 03:14 PM   #5461
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East Chicago councilman charged with murder is re-elected | abc7chicago.com

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An East Chicago councilman charged with murder has been re-elected.

The (Munster) Times reports that 42-year-old Robert Battle ran unopposed in Tuesday's election. He is accused of shooting Reimundo Camarillo Jr. to death on Oct. 12 in East Chicago. He also faces a federal drug charge after police say they found more than 73 pounds of marijuana and more than $100,000 cash during a Porter County traffic stop.

Lake County Sheriff John Buncich said Battle did not request an absentee ballot to vote from the jail.

Battle is seeking bail and a Nov. 17 hearing is planned. On Tuesday a Lake County judge granted prosecutors' request for a DNA mouth swab from Battle.
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wait, govt isnt a tool to use to make people do what i want?

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wait, so the ecomony isn't one size and when the wealthy 1% have a larger share it doesn't mean I have less wealth?!

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I think the first guy actually nailed the argument for why taxes are morally okay while an individual forcing monetary contribution is not. Government is a construct of the people to facilitate a stable society which allows it to prosper. The government, at least in this nation, is elected to represent the best interests of the people it governs and requires taxes to provide services such as utilities, roadways and other infrastructure, a strong police force to enforce property rights, a strong military to prevent a hostile invasion, and a myriad of other services. All of these things benefit society as a whole and every individual is responsible for contributing.

Obviously, what should be covered by taxes as well how and in what amounts they are collected is up for debate. The system will never be perfect but the collection of taxes themselves for the purpose of serving society as a whole is not morally wrong.

The rest of the college students just lacked the debate or critical thinking skills to properly articulate/grasp the argument and then fell victim to the false comparison.
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But the government should be limited to the rules of its construct and not be able to collect new powers simply because its members desire them.
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I think the first guy actually nailed the argument for why taxes are morally okay while an individual forcing monetary contribution is not.




except for facts, it was a good argument.


what if I could use my own money to decide where to send my own child, and pick the place that worked for my budget/goals?

you know what all the money goes to with "education"?

this:






developing ways to keep kids dumb, so schools can keep asking for more and more money to "fix" the problem, and the admins can live better off while the students suffer.
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Heretofore, I've found photographic depictions of common-core math to be bewildering and perplexing.

I've concluded that they are meant to be, by small-minded people who believe that the customs of their tribe are the laws of the universe.

After having put a modicum of effort into understanding the subject, I've come to a radical realization: It's designed to teach Fermi estimation (sometimes called successive approximation), a skill central to most engineering disciplines, but conspicuously absent from most other modern curriculae.

Anyone who has ever used a slide rule understand the concept of approximation. It's a foundational principal in the design of modern analog-to-digital converters. Many of us, who are of an analytical mindset, do it without even realizing it, applying labels like "back-of-napkin math" if pressed.

Yes, it's radically different from the way our generation was taught arithmetic in the 70s and 80s. And yes, it's massively time-consuming when you do it the "long way" as depicted in photos such as the above. But you're not meant to continue doing it that way. Those worksheets are training the mind to approach math in a manner which is intuitively obvious to some, and utterly foreign to others.

Put simply, when you are confronted with a mathematical problem in real life, it's generally more useful to be able to rapidly and intuitively come up with an answer which is "more or less correct, to within a decimal place or so" then it is to know how to solve it exactly if you happen to have a pencil and paper handy. And that's what CC is teaching people how to do.

I've changed my mind. This is a Good Thing™.








That having been said, a few words on beer:

Beer for brooms: Germany to pay alcoholics with drink to clean streets



A west-German initiative will follow in the Dutch capital’s footsteps by instituting a plan for unemployed alcoholics and drug addicts to receive beer in exchange for cleaning streets. The measure by a local charity has already sparked some controversy.

The so-called ‘Pick-up’ initiative is set to take effect mid-June in western Germany and has been concocted by the organization Addict Support Essen.

Together with alcohol, participants in the initiative will also be rewarded with food and medical treatment. Furthermore, since this fits into the ‘one-euro-job’ scheme set up for the homeless and unemployed in Germany, a financial reward of 1.25 euro will also be paid out, The Local found.

The job will be cleaning the streets from three to six hours a day.

"The aim of the program is not to supply people with beer," the charity said in a statement, defending the beer move as a stepping stone on the way to a properly functioning society, where every member contributes. "For the participants it is about a meaningful daily structure, feeling useful and learning a new way to behave."

Speaking to German channel ZDF, spokesman Barbel Marrziniak explained that a number of the participants in the program “simply need a bottle of beer to become fit for work… if we didn’t give it to them, they would not turn up in the first place.”

As the case seems to be in a few countries, there is a belief that addiction in general cannot be solved head-on, but rather – managed in one way or another, because, for some, giving up the bottle or the needle is simply not in the cards. But motivation is a different thing entirely, and can be achieved through established means and lead to a productive routine, the charity believes. And with medical help on offer as well, the benefits only grow.

"It is the same with funding for most social programs for disadvantaged and sick people in Germany… it ends up saving money in other areas.”

But the backlash against the plan doesn’t come from a different place. Other charities who share similar ideals would prefer to go about things differently. As Sabine Zschaler, chairman of Homeless Support Ruhr and Lower Rhine, told ZDF, “It would be nice if we could give the homeless a bit of their dignity back, when they’re already at rock bottom… But that’s not going to happen if we pay them with beer.”

Furthermore, Zschaler believes the measure may result in the alcoholics simply showing up to do a half-hearted job with beer being dangled in front of them. But proponents of the measure counter that by adding that an educational approach to controlling and managing drinking, as well as counseling and vitamin supplements, will also be included in the ‘Pick-up’ program.

Finally, the Essen charity says that this is a one-year trial and the country will just have to wait and see what will come of it. “We don’t yet know ourselves,” Marrziniak told journalists.

A very similar program, with similar working hours and other conditions, began operating in Amsterdam last year.

For the homeless and those affected by addiction, 10 euro in cash per day, five cans of beer and some tobacco seem like a great deal for sweeping the streets from 9am to 6pm every day.

The Dutch project is operated by the charity Rainbow Foundation.

As in Germany, the Dutch also believe this is a national matter that deserves to be funded by the government. Donations are of course also accepted.

https://www.rt.com/news/158796-alcoh...rmany-streets/
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i use my fingers. cant get any more real world, understanding the concept, than that.
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That is actually the way i do math in my head... I don't think it works for everyone but I find it efficient (meaning I can find an answer... vs going to paper for the rare times I bother).
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That is actually the way i do math in my head... I don't think it works for everyone but I find it efficient (meaning I can find an answer... vs going to paper for the rare times I bother).
And that's exactly it.

People of our generation look at this and see that it takes way longer to do "new math" on paper than it does to do our "old math" on paper, and miss out entirely on the concept that the whole point of the "new math" is that once you learn how to do it, you don't need the paper. They're teaching kids how to do arithmetic in their heads, which is an important skill.



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East Chicago is a town in Indiana (next to Gary).

If it was a true Chicago councilman they would not have gotten caught.
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A liberal such you yourself should realize that just because someone has been charged with murder doesn't mean that they're guilty of murder.

Or would you prefer to eliminate the court system and just hand all judicial power to the police?
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A liberal such you yourself should realize that just because someone has been charged with murder doesn't mean that they're guilty of murder.

Or would you prefer to eliminate the court system and just hand all judicial power to the police?
lolwut?

I get that you post in these threads for a particular purpose, but this is a stretch even for you.
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Heretofore, I've found photographic depictions of common-core math to be bewildering and perplexing.

I've concluded that they are meant to be, by small-minded people who believe that the customs of their tribe are the laws of the universe.

After having put a modicum of effort into understanding the subject, I've come to a radical realization: It's designed to teach Fermi estimation (sometimes called successive approximation), a skill central to most engineering disciplines, but conspicuously absent from most other modern curriculae.

Anyone who has ever used a slide rule understand the concept of approximation. It's a foundational principal in the design of modern analog-to-digital converters. Many of us, who are of an analytical mindset, do it without even realizing it, applying labels like "back-of-napkin math" if pressed.

Yes, it's radically different from the way our generation was taught arithmetic in the 70s and 80s. And yes, it's massively time-consuming when you do it the "long way" as depicted in photos such as the above. But you're not meant to continue doing it that way. Those worksheets are training the mind to approach math in a manner which is intuitively obvious to some, and utterly foreign to others.

Put simply, when you are confronted with a mathematical problem in real life, it's generally more useful to be able to rapidly and intuitively come up with an answer which is "more or less correct, to within a decimal place or so" then it is to know how to solve it exactly if you happen to have a pencil and paper handy. And that's what CC is teaching people how to do.

I've changed my mind. This is a Good Thing™.
It's very frustrating to see my kids learning Common Core math...at the Catholic school to which I pay exhorbitant amounts of money. That said, there is a shred of truth to what Joe is saying. HOW they "decided" to force all of America into Common Core, without firm proof of benefit or outcome, I wholeheatedly disagree with.

The jury is still out as to whether we're creating a generation of fools or a better life for us all. Personally, not everyone fits in the "round hole" of Common Core teaching. I'd rather see more flexibility with learning options, and obviously more flexibility with school vouchers.

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