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Old 04-07-2016, 11:33 AM   #5981
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His claim is: 10% of all filed taxes receive back more money than paid in. 40% break even.


Here's more on that (but doesn't necessarily back the claim):

Redistributive State: The Allocation of Government Benefits, Services, and Taxes in the United States





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Old 04-07-2016, 11:36 AM   #5982
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Care to back up that last assertion?

75% of welfare recipients have at least one working adult in the household. And the largest group by number is white, working, unmarried mothers.

Not illegals and immigrants.
I just did a quick Google search and verified it via NPR, Fox, FinancialTimes, CNN, and lots of others. I'd prefer you pick your own favorite news outlet and confirm it yourself, as I just did.
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I just did a quick Google search and verified it via NPR, Fox, FinancialTimes, CNN, and lots of others. I'd prefer you pick your own favorite news outlet and confirm it yourself, as I just did.
Spike That Email About Welfare And Work; Fact Checkers Say It's Not True : The Two-Way : NPR

There. I did.
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Old 04-07-2016, 12:48 PM   #5984
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I stand corrected. I thought you were talking about almost 50% pay little or no Federal income tax. Still, California...

Why Get off Welfare? | Cato Institute

Do 11 states now have more people on welfare than they have employed? | Fact Checker
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75% of welfare recipients have at least one working adult in the household. And the largest group by number is white, working, unmarried mothers.
Having a working adult or even two working adults in a household does not mean they are paying any income tax into the system at all. Anyone who has done their own taxes knows there are thresholds beneath which you pay nothing.

Those people are receiving services for which they did not pay.
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Awesome!

Tepper's Move May Affect New Jersey Budget, Forecaster Warns - Bloomberg
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An "in the US" inversion or whatever they call it. Don't understand why it isn't done more by these guys.
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The income-tax situation in NJ is already pretty weird, because of NYC.

There's a hell of a lot of business in NYC; Manhattan in particular. Lots of money.

And a lot of people who work in Manhattan, earning 6-7 figure salaries, live in NJ. They've really made it quite convenient to commute between the two places- there are two subway lines, two sets of car tunnels, a rather nice bridge, countless ferries, many bus lines, and a commuter railroad. About half of the people I work with live in NJ. Hell, I lived there for a year when I first took this job.

And those people pay no income tax in NJ.

You still have to file a NJ tax return, but NY takes 100% of your income tax and NJ cuts you a break on the whole amount.

It's a very weird situation.
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It's a very weird situation.
What's weird is that your avatar is Princess Celestia. I was told it was the princess by my five year old daughter. Now don't get me wrong...weird is OK. I wore my "Unicorn's are LAME...said no one ever." t shirt just yesterday.
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Yeah, I guess the whole pony thing is played out at this point...

Ok, contest time: pick my new avatar. (No dicks.)
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I vote for "a slightly Hispanic version of Bob Ross".
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I vote for "a slightly Hispanic version of Bob Ross".
If I could prop in this thread, you would have just earned one.
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How about Bob Ross with an angry slightly hispanic dog?
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How about Bob Ross with an angry slightly hispanic dog?
That's pretty freaking awesome, Cord.
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That's pretty freaking awesome, Cord.
Hey I just FOUND that picture. Somebody actually had to make it, and I wanna know why...
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Yeah, I guess the whole pony thing is played out at this point...
if you ignore them, they will go.
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You live in New York, don't you Joe?

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I do.

And yet, I don't feel at all trapped here. Sure, the weather sometimes sucks, but on days like today when it's sunny and in the mid 60s, I feel like Julie Andrews just walking down the street.





I've been offered jobs in other places. Places where I wouldn't have to pay $3k a month for a small 1 bedroom apartment, and which lots of other people might consider "habitable" or even "desirable." And yet when I've gone out to visit them, I've found that they depress me terribly. So little life, so little vibrance. The streets are populated solely by cars, there's little to no pedestrian traffic, the nearest Ukranian restaurant is miles and miles out of my way...

Honestly, the only place I'd really want to leave here for is north San Diego county. Carlsbad, specifically. That town exists on an entirely other plane of reality, and one which I quite enjoyed during my 8 years there.
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For instance, just today I was offered a job in Palau (not joking), which is a small island in the Pacific about halfway between Australia and Japan.

Despite the fact that Palau appears to be one of the most unimaginably beautiful places on earth, I'm not seriously considering it.

And since this is the Politics thread:

Palau is a presidential republic in free association with the United States, which provides defense, funding, and access to social services. Legislative power is concentrated in the bicameral Palau National Congress. Palau's economy is based mainly on tourism, subsistence agriculture and fishing, with a significant portion of gross national product derived from foreign aid. The country uses the United States dollar as its currency. The islands' culture mixes Japanese, Micronesian and Melanesian elements. The majority of citizens are of mixed Micronesian, Melanesian, and Austronesian descent, with significant groups descended from Japanese and Filipino settlers.

The present day "traditional" government of Palau is a continuation of its ancestor, composed of practices that span thousands of years. Traditionally, Palau was organized hierarchically. The lowest level is the village or hamlet, then the chiefdom (now politically referred to as a state) and finally alliances of chiefdoms. In ancient times, numerous federations divided power, but upon the 17th century introduction of firearms by the British, an imbalance of power occurred.

Palau became divided into northern and southern federations. The Northern Federation is headed by the high chief and chiefess of the ruling clan Uudes of Melekeok state, the Reklai and Ebilreklai. They are commonly referred to as the king and queen of the Northern Federation. This northern federation comprises the state of Kayangel, Ngerchelong, Ngardmau, Ngiwal, Ngaraard, Ngatpang, Ngeremlengui, Melekok, Aimeliik, Ngchesar and Airai. The Southern Federation is likewise represented by the high chief and chiefess of the ruling Idid of Koror state.

The Southern Federation comprises the states of Koror, Peleliu and Angaur. However, fewer and fewer Palauans have knowledge of the concept of federations, and the term is slowly dying out. Federations were established as a way of safeguarding states and hamlets who shared economic, social, and political interests, but with the advent a federal government, safeguards are less meaningful. It is interesting to note however, that in international relations, the king of Palau is synonymous with the Ibedul of Koror. This is because Koror is the industrial capital of the nation, elevating his position over the Reklai of Melekeok.

It is a misconception that the king and queen of Palau, or any chief and his female counterpart for that matter are married. Traditional leaders and their female counterparts have always been related and unmarried (marrying relatives was a traditional taboo). Usually, a chief and his female counterpart are brother and sister, or close cousins, and have their own spouses.
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