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I've been called worse, but that stings a little coming from an east coast city slicker keyboard cowboy that drives a benz and needs a gym membership to stay in shape. I kid kid... (mostly )
Originally Posted by Joe Perez
To be fair, the "like minded individuals" part is mostly incidental. This thread mostly gives Braineack a place to dump inflammatory and poorly-sourced articles without bothering to notice the context of the conversation in which he is posting them.
I'm also curious about this- I'm not sure if you're saying that you are extremely intolerant of co-citizens with secular moderate political views (eg: you are an evangelical religious extremest liberal), or... ?
I could go on about the philosophy of tolerance and the maintenance of a vast depth of indifference... but I'll save you from that level incoherent rambling.
Your literary chops probably leave me in the dust. I wasn't even trying to deflect and confuse.
I meant that statement to indicate that I'm a strong supporter of the first amendment.
Now, I personally don't think it's reasonable to compare Donald Trump to Adolph Hitler. Their behavior may belie some superficial similarities (ok, many superficial similarities), but I don't think that their motivations are at all similar. Hitler was a poor, displaced orphan who generally failed at everything during his youth and desperately sought acceptance and belonging. Trump is just a blustering egomaniac who is accustomed to success.
That having been said, I'm troubled by the fact that institutional censorship is becoming the leading weapon in the war on thought:
California History Teacher To Retire After Being Disciplined For Comparing Trump To Hitler by Tod Perry November 28, 2016
If those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it, what happens when we stop teaching history? Two weeks ago, Frank Navarro, a high school teacher in Mountain View, California was suspended for illustrating the rhetorical similarities between president-elect Donald Trump and Adolph Hitler. Although it’s sensationalistic to compare Trump’s xenophobic bluster with Hitler’s unspeakable atrocities, it's worth noting even Holocaust survivors have made comparisons.
Although Navarro returned to work after a short two-day leave of absence, the veteran history teacher of 40 years has decided he will retire after this year because of how he was treated by the district. “I will not be coming back, and it’s very hard for me to say that,” Navarro told KQED. “I love this job. I mean, I feel like I can learn something from it every day.”
He also stands by his decision to teach the similarities between Hitler and Trump. “I’m not pulling these facts out of my hat,” Navarro told school administrators. “It’s based on experience and work and if I’m wrong, show we where I’m wrong. And there was silence,” he said.
“Adolf Hitler said he’d make Germany great again. Donald Trump said he’s going to make America great again,” Navarro said. “Hitler focused on the Jews as the great peril of Germany, and Trump focused on the Muslims and talked about a registry and keeping Muslims out of the country.” Navarro is a respected Holocaust expert who was named a Mandel Fellow for the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in 1997 and has studied at the International Center for the Study of the Holocaust in Jerusalem.
Given Navarro’s deep understanding of the horrors committed by **** Germany, he felt it his duty to speak out. “I feel strongly about this: to stand quiet in the face of bigotry and to turn your eyes away from it is to back up the bigotry, and that’s not what I, or any history teacher, should be doing in our work,” Navarro said. He also believes that other teachers should do the same. “I would hope that no teacher self-censors, and I would hope that the administration looks carefully at what is being said before they move on somebody,” Navarro said.
I've been called worse, but that stings a little coming from an east coast city slicker keyboard cowboy that drives a benz and needs a gym membership to stay in shape. I kid kid... (mostly )
you werent called anything; a question was asked. And if you are a liberal, why would being called one sting? Doesn't being called one feel good, like smelling your own farts?
A German court has ruled that seven Islamists who formed a vigilante patrol to enforce Sharia law on the streets of Wuppertal did not break German law and were simply exercising their right to free speech. The "politically correct" decision, which may be appealed, effectively authorizes the Sharia Police to continue enforcing Islamic law in Wuppertal.
The self-appointed "Sharia Police" distributed leaflets which established a "Sharia-controlled zone" in Wuppertal. The men urged both Muslim and non-Muslim passersby to attend mosques and to refrain from alcohol, cigarettes, drugs, gambling, music, pornography and prostitution.
Critics say the cases — especially those in which German law has taken a back seat to Sharia law — reflect a dangerous encroachment of Islamic law into the German legal system.
In June 2013, a court in Hamm ruled that anyone who contracts marriage according to Islamic law in a Muslim country and later seeks a divorce in Germany must abide by the original terms established by Sharia law. The landmark ruling effectively legalized the Sharia practice of "triple-talaq," obtaining a divorce by reciting the phrase "I divorce you" three times.
A growing number of Muslims in Germany are consciously bypassing German courts altogether and instead are adjudicating their disputes in informal Sharia courts, which are proliferating across the country.
"If the rule of law fails to establish its authority and demand respect for itself, then it can immediately declare its bankruptcy." — Franz Solms-Laubach, Bild'sparliamentary correspondent.
I don't see anything wrong with what they are doing. Until they physically try to stop people from breaking "their" rules they can say whatever they want. Hell I would smoke a cigarette and drink a beer in front of them. If they touched me I would get the cops and press charges for assault. There is no reason why you have to use only the government courts to solve problems. Businesses all the time in the US use arbitration to settles cases as it is usually faster, cheaper, and more fair then going through US courts. Yet again Scott is posting against thing's just because it is related to Islam.
At the end of the day if people want to peacefully use arbitration to solve their problems, who are you to tell them they can't use the arbitrator they both choose.
I thought that you were one of the people who supported the concept of Reciprocity. (Eg: drivers licenses, concealed carry permits, and marriages issued in one state should be recognized by others.)
I don't see anything wrong with what they are doing. Until they physically try to stop people from breaking "their" rules they can say whatever they want. Hell I would smoke a cigarette and drink a beer in front of them. If they touched me I would get the cops and press charges for assault. There is no reason why you have to use only the government courts to solve problems. Businesses all the time in the US use arbitration to settles cases as it is usually faster, cheaper, and more fair then going through US courts. Yet again Scott is posting against thing's just because it is related to Islam.
At the end of the day if people want to peacefully use arbitration to solve their problems, who are you to tell them they can't use the arbitrator they both choose.
Except arbitration, at least in the US, is codefied in Federal Law. So I don't think that's the best example.
Last night on the tee-vee, as I flicked back and forth between my most trusted sources of cable news, I saw a number a college students setting fire to the American flag. Some of the students said they were "angry." Others said they were "disgusted." But many others were anxious to explain why they had become “fearful” of the American Flag. Interesting.
At Hampshire College, The President, Jonathan Lash, has actually removed the flag from his campus, in response to students who expressed “fear and discomfort” when confronted by the sight of Old Glory. He offered this explanation: “Removing the flag from our campus will better enable us to focus our efforts on addressing racist, misogynistic, Islamophobic, anti-immigrant, anti-Semitic, and anti-LGBTQ rhetoric and behaviors.”
As I dropped one of those giant round ice cubes into a tumbler of Whistle Pig, I couldn’t help but wonder if President Lash was unaware that billions of people around the world are routinely subjected to horrific levels of racism, misogyny, and bigotry that far exceed any injustice in modern-day America. Furthermore, I was curious to know if President Lash really believed that removing our flag is a better way to assuage the fears of his frightened students, than simply educating them about the undeniable fact that no country on the planet affords its citizens more liberty than this one? Finally, I found myself wondering as to why the President of Hampshire College would allow his students to pay for their tuition with federal dollars – federal dollars provided by the same government whose flag was no longer suitable to fly at his school.
Here’s the problem. Tuition at Hampshire College is about $60,000 a year. That’s not a problem because it’s expensive – it’s a problem because 85% of Hampshire students qualify for some form of federal financial aid. http://bit.ly/2gsZxnk. That means that We the People are enabling schools like Hampshire to sell a liberal arts degree for approximately $250,000. With $1.3 trillion dollars of student debt currently on the books, I found myself thinking how nice it would be to hear a more persuasive argument from those who will happily take money from a country whose flag they despise.
I turned the channel, and watched another group of students dance around another pile of burning flags at another expensive university. I couldn't tell where they were, but occurred to me that wherever they were – it probably wasn’t a trade school. To my knowledge, no one has ever burned a flag at a trade school.
I wonder why that is?
I have no idea, but the thought reminded me that I had yet to post Episode 11 of Hot Under the Blue Collar. It features a graduate from one of those schools – a guy named Scott. Scott studied to be an electrician, and his comments, though not nearly as expensive as Daniel’s, are far more… illuminating?
Carry on,
and don’t play with matches.
Mike
and just fyi, i totally understand exactly what lars is saying, and he's not wrong. still doesn't discount they have a problem.
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Skilled trades here. We can't even find worthy people to work in this industry, starting pay 18hr with more than enough OT. Minimal expierance required, know safety, how to read a meter, use a computer, read, owns a set of tools. We require little else, and would prefer to train someone.
I or my boss have not interviewed someone my age or within 10 years of my age since I've been here.
I will be formally starting as a facilities maintenance mechanic next year. The pay is good and most of the other guys in this department have been doing it for 20-40 years. In the next 5-10 years the only guys left will be myself and about three guys out of about a dozen. (Starting pay is in line with what Erat quoted, and actually a little higher after a 90 day probationary period of I think $14/hr if you have NO experience).
I am one class short of an associate's degree and the highest level of education I have is high school. That is, if you don't count my avionics tech training in the Marine Corps.
I never knew what I wanted to do for a living but I am doing ok for myself mostly because I showed up for work and treated everyone respectfully.
Skilled trades here. We can't even find worthy people to work in this industry, starting pay 18hr with more than enough OT. Minimal expierance required, know safety, how to read a meter, use a computer, read, owns a set of tools. We require little else, and would prefer to train someone.
I'm reading these posts with a bit of envy. Turning 40 in a couple of weeks, and wondering what the hell I'm doing with my life. (Typical response, I know...) Seems like pretty much every day now I think to myself "I'm really getting tired of being the boss, why can't I go back to doing something fulfilling?"
11-30-2016, 05:42 PM
I kid kid... (mostly 
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