DIY Turbo Discussion greddy on a 1.8? homebrew kit?

Boosted stock bottom end?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-31-2012, 08:44 PM
  #1  
Newb
Thread Starter
 
aznpersuasion89's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 15
Total Cats: 0
Default Boosted stock bottom end?

there is absolutely nothing to read in this thread

Last edited by aznpersuasion89; 08-31-2012 at 09:05 PM.
aznpersuasion89 is offline  
Old 08-31-2012, 08:49 PM
  #2  
Elite Member
iTrader: (24)
 
viperormiata's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Key West
Posts: 6,110
Total Cats: 283
Default

Be honest, have you done any research at all?
viperormiata is offline  
Old 08-31-2012, 08:53 PM
  #3  
Newb
Thread Starter
 
aznpersuasion89's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 15
Total Cats: 0
Default

nothing to read here either

Last edited by aznpersuasion89; 08-31-2012 at 09:05 PM.
aznpersuasion89 is offline  
Old 08-31-2012, 08:58 PM
  #4  
Elite Member
iTrader: (6)
 
kenzo42's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: CA
Posts: 2,016
Total Cats: 13
Default

Azn do some research bf asking doopid fawking preguntas...biitch.
kenzo42 is offline  
Old 08-31-2012, 09:04 PM
  #5  
Newb
Thread Starter
 
aznpersuasion89's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 15
Total Cats: 0
Default

or here, move along
aznpersuasion89 is offline  
Old 08-31-2012, 10:00 PM
  #6  
Elite Member
iTrader: (24)
 
viperormiata's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Key West
Posts: 6,110
Total Cats: 283
Default

We don't do a lot of this around here.
Attached Thumbnails Boosted stock bottom end?-spoon-feeding-pupils.jpg  
viperormiata is offline  
Old 08-31-2012, 10:06 PM
  #7  
Elite Member
iTrader: (24)
 
Bryce's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Cypress, TX
Posts: 3,759
Total Cats: 35
Default

Lol @ the edits.
Bryce is offline  
Old 08-31-2012, 11:04 PM
  #8  
Slowest Progress Ever
iTrader: (26)
 
thirdgen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: The coal ridden hills of Pennsylvania
Posts: 6,022
Total Cats: 304
Default

Sucks to be you NOOB!
thirdgen is offline  
Old 09-01-2012, 02:42 AM
  #9  
Newb
iTrader: (1)
 
Miahtahere's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 37
Total Cats: 0
Default

Apparently there's nothing to read here.... moving along.
Miahtahere is offline  
Old 09-01-2012, 03:24 AM
  #10  
Elite Member
iTrader: (6)
 
blaen99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 3,611
Total Cats: 25
Default

It's too bad the original posts aren't mysteriously restored. 'Cause I'd love to see the original posts, considering the responses.
blaen99 is offline  
Old 09-01-2012, 04:19 PM
  #11  
Elite Member
iTrader: (24)
 
viperormiata's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Key West
Posts: 6,110
Total Cats: 283
Default

Originally Posted by blaen99
It's too bad the original posts aren't mysteriously restored. 'Cause I'd love to see the original posts, considering the responses.
Agreed. I never got to see anything after my initial post.

I want to see him cry like a bitch.
viperormiata is offline  
Old 09-02-2012, 06:08 PM
  #12  
Newb
Thread Starter
 
aznpersuasion89's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 15
Total Cats: 0
Default

the original question was how to the stock ring gaps deal with added heat from boost applications. common sense says they if too small from factory they will butt up and destroy ring lands. since no one seems to know im still searching
aznpersuasion89 is offline  
Old 09-02-2012, 06:12 PM
  #13  
Newb
Thread Starter
 
aznpersuasion89's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 15
Total Cats: 0
Default

Originally Posted by viperormiata
Agreed. I never got to see anything after my initial post.

I want to see him cry like a bitch.
no hard feelings bro, nice car btw
aznpersuasion89 is offline  
Old 09-02-2012, 06:14 PM
  #14  
Former Vendor
iTrader: (31)
 
Savington's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Sunnyvale, CA
Posts: 15,442
Total Cats: 2,099
Default

Common sense says that thousands of people put 200-220wtq of boost through stock engines every day. They work just fine as long as you don't go crazy.
Savington is offline  
Old 09-02-2012, 06:22 PM
  #15  
Newb
Thread Starter
 
aznpersuasion89's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 15
Total Cats: 0
Default

i see that, TONS of people have done. im just wondering how. maybe im just over thinking it, but when i helped my friend build his turbo 4.6 the ring gaps were twice the recommended specs for NA. so either the factory has set rather large gaps, or the boost limit on the rods is what the limiting factor is since only so much boost equals only so much heat. but some people are running 12 PSI which is almost a full atmosphere again so wouldnt that equal twice as much heat? needing a larger ring gap?
aznpersuasion89 is offline  
Old 09-02-2012, 06:28 PM
  #16  
VladiTuned
iTrader: (76)
 
18psi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 35,821
Total Cats: 3,481
Default

why are you trying to diagnose a problem that doesn't exist? is the real question.

yes the rods are the weak link in our stock motors. with nothing more than upgraded rods we can do 300whp, even 350whp and the stock pistons/rings hold up just fine. beyond that you need stronger parts, but at that point you're breaking a LOT more than just the stock pistons and need a whole lot more money for all other required supporting mods.

keep in mind the "original" b6t which the bp is a larger version of, was designed to work with a turbo.
18psi is offline  
Old 09-02-2012, 06:28 PM
  #17  
Junior Member
 
MD323's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: SFL
Posts: 369
Total Cats: 3
Default

Originally Posted by aznpersuasion89
the original question was how to the stock ring gaps deal with added heat from boost applications. common sense says they if too small from factory they will butt up and destroy ring lands. since no one seems to know im still searching

no need to know, the BP is a boost motor from the word go. mazda designed it for boost and N/a was a 2nd thought.

end of story
MD323 is offline  
Old 09-02-2012, 06:38 PM
  #18  
Newb
Thread Starter
 
aznpersuasion89's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 15
Total Cats: 0
Default

Originally Posted by MD323
no need to know, the BP is a boost motor from the word go. mazda designed it for boost and N/a was a 2nd thought.

end of story
the BP maybe, but what about the B61P?
aznpersuasion89 is offline  
Old 09-02-2012, 06:48 PM
  #19  
Junior Member
 
MD323's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: SFL
Posts: 369
Total Cats: 3
Default

Originally Posted by aznpersuasion89
the BP maybe, but what about the B61P?
same thing the 1.6 was their prior rally motor, till one of there drivers pushed them for bigger displacement and they built the BP, which is literally a stretched B6

EDIT: tell ya what heres alittle spoon feeding http://www.solomiata.com/Mx5Engine.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_B_engine
MD323 is offline  
Old 09-02-2012, 06:54 PM
  #20  
Newb
Thread Starter
 
aznpersuasion89's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 15
Total Cats: 0
Default

thanks, wikipedia was the first place i looked. however solomiata i have never seen. mods can delete this or put this in reddit. thanks for the knowledge. learning will continue
aznpersuasion89 is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Full_Tilt_Boogie
Build Threads
84
04-12-2021 04:21 PM
stoves
Suspension, Brakes, Drivetrain
5
04-21-2016 03:00 PM
Rick02R
WTB
3
01-03-2016 07:18 PM
tazswing
Race Prep
20
10-03-2015 11:04 AM
Trent
WTB
2
10-01-2015 12:15 PM



Quick Reply: Boosted stock bottom end?



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:29 AM.