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Old 01-20-2014, 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by miata25psi
If you are good with tools and know how to find deals on parts, a 300 whp na Miata can be had for less than 5k. Car included.
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Originally Posted by miata25psi
If you are good with tools and know how to find deals on parts, a 300 whp na Miata can be had for less than 5k. Car included.
I take it ure speaking from experience?
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Nope just a butthead n00b spamming to make a manifold WTB thread
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Originally Posted by miata25psi
If you are good with tools and know how to find deals on parts, a 300 whp na Miata can be had for less than 5k. Car included.
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What do you plan on racing on? Hopes and dreams?



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Not to be an ***(whenever someone says that, it means they are being an ***) but 300whp on $5k isn't a crazy unobtainable feat. It's been done. I'm beating a dead horse and will be quiet now.
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Originally Posted by dvcn
Not to be an ***(whenever someone says that, it means they are being an ***) but 300whp on $5k isn't a crazy unobtainable feat. It's been done. I'm beating a dead horse and will be quiet now.
I'm glad you at least know this.

The people that can make it happen are not the people that need to be told that it can be done. The people asking about it are the ones that cannot do it.

Does that make sense?
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You have to be insanely lucky on good deals to even come close to a reliable 300hp build.

It probably is possible, but it isn't easily conceivable to me that most could do it.

I need to stress the reliable aspect of that possibility too. You are entering built motor territory with 300 and that in itself eats up a **** ton of your budget.
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Originally Posted by dvcn
Not to be an ***(whenever someone says that, it means they are being an ***) but 300whp on $5k isn't a crazy unobtainable feat. It's been done. I'm beating a dead horse and will be quiet now.
Only if you steal the car. Like literally, punch the ignition switch with your ski mask on and go. Then $5k will get you to 300hp. Of course you still won't be able to effectively use it unless the stolen ride already had suspension, wheels, and tires capable of supporting 300hp.
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Originally Posted by Jeffbucc
You have to be insanely lucky on good deals to even come close to a reliable 300hp build.

It probably is possible, but it isn't easily conceivable to me that most could do it.

I need to stress the reliable aspect of that possibility too. You are entering built motor territory with 300 and that in itself eats up a **** ton of your budget.
he keeps ignoring all of this and telling the morons for the 100th time to aim for the stars because somehow his setup magically didn't splooge all over the road yet
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Originally Posted by guttedmiata
Only if you steal the car. Like literally, punch the ignition switch with your ski mask on and go. Then $5k will get you to 300hp. Of course you still won't be able to effectively use it unless the stolen ride already had suspension, wheels, and tires capable of supporting 300hp.
I could do it. No promises on the engine or tranny lasting longer than the dyno pull. But I could do it. Thats find a ratty NA for 2 grand and fabricate. I would use a china 16g ($260), DIY PNP ($430), rx8 injectors ($200), make a log manifold using the stock header flange and a turbo flange cut off a free wrx takeoff catted uppipe ($40), cut and splice a godspeed wrx downpipe ($90), heater hose and fuel lines for the turbo and water feeds ($40), cx racing intercooler kit ($200), and ****, that would actually leave enough money to throw ebay rods ($250) in it and even new bearings ($120), and wait even a 3" exhaust all the way back ($300). Total $1,930. Will also need a wally 190 ($90), and a wideband, why not 14point7 ($140), which leaves $2840 to acquire a miata and a clutch. Totally doable, not easy in the slightest.
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Originally Posted by Leafy
I could do it. No promises on the engine or tranny lasting longer than the dyno pull. But I could do it. Thats find a ratty NA for 2 grand and fabricate. I would use a china 16g ($260), DIY PNP ($430), rx8 injectors ($200), make a log manifold using the stock header flange and a turbo flange cut off a free wrx takeoff catted uppipe ($40), cut and splice a godspeed wrx downpipe ($90), heater hose and fuel lines for the turbo and water feeds ($40), cx racing intercooler kit ($200), and ****, that would actually leave enough money to throw ebay rods ($250) in it and even new bearings ($120), and wait even a 3" exhaust all the way back ($300). Total $1,930. Will also need a wally 190 ($90), and a wideband, why not 14point7 ($140), which leaves $2840 to acquire a miata and a clutch. Totally doable, not easy in the slightest.
so in typical Leafy fashion you post a bunch of hypothetical BS that you never personally did.

C'mon man. You're not a noob anymore, just stop.


If we're playing this retarded game,

I could build a 300whp miata for 3k.

Where's my cookie?
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Originally Posted by 18psi
so in typical Leafy fashion you post a bunch of BS
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If you're lucky you can find a mad tyte miata on CL with racelands and a badass pink tow strap with hood venting for only like what.... 3 to 5k these days?

****** *** tax. GL with your 300hp miata for 5k.
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Originally Posted by Leafy
I could do it. No promises on the engine or tranny lasting longer than the dyno pull. But I could do it. Thats find a ratty NA for 2 grand and fabricate. I would use a china 16g ($260), DIY PNP ($430), rx8 injectors ($200), make a log manifold using the stock header flange and a turbo flange cut off a free wrx takeoff catted uppipe ($40), cut and splice a godspeed wrx downpipe ($90), heater hose and fuel lines for the turbo and water feeds ($40), cx racing intercooler kit ($200), and ****, that would actually leave enough money to throw ebay rods ($250) in it and even new bearings ($120), and wait even a 3" exhaust all the way back ($300). Total $1,930. Will also need a wally 190 ($90), and a wideband, why not 14point7 ($140), which leaves $2840 to acquire a miata and a clutch. Totally doable, not easy in the slightest.
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I feel i should make one more decent post in this shitty thread.

There have been many of us who have made 220-240hp miatas for well under $3000. Including myself, see build thread(and other peoples build threads).

Start there, that may bring results.



I find myself searching this site for answers i need more and more. Only to find threads like these where some useful information could have been but because it's the first thing that comes up it's normally the regulars hazing the new guy for not searching. I'm not saying this is one of those threads, but it might be for some idiots. I end up searching through 3 or 4 threads i shouldn't have needed to in the end. /erats time is valuable
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Originally Posted by Leafy
I could do it. No promises on the engine or tranny lasting longer than the dyno pull.
Really!?! I could stab myself in the heart with a giant knife and not die......in the first 30 seconds. Still gonna die, so it's still a stupid idea! I'm kinda guessing the OP wants to drive the car around.

If the OP wants a reliable 300hp ride, it's gonna cost $4-5k, depending on the platform he starts with; which is an additional cost.
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Originally Posted by guttedmiata
Really!?! I could stab myself in the heart with a giant knife and not die......in the first 30 seconds. Still gonna die, so it's still a stupid idea! I'm kinda guessing the OP wants to drive the car around.

If the OP wants a reliable 300hp ride, it's gonna cost $4-5k, depending on the platform he starts with; which is an additional cost.
If you actually read my whole post you'll notice I actually found enough money in the pretend budget for rods, so the engine will be fine. And honestly you can hit 300hp without breaking the 5 speed as long as you tune it to not make more than 250ftlbs.

And yes, thats a very hypothetical post, but the ebay 16g will be able to hit the numbers, we know the ghetto manifold with the stock flange already works because Dann (and GRM challenge team or two) have already made one like it. Nothing I said is impossible, is it the most optimal setup? No. Would a build thread by someone doing this get ridiculed on here? Yes, until they produced results. I might even have a car and willing owner to make a setup like this for, besides the engine internal bits.
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No one is more frugal and as patient than I am when it comes to finding the best deals on baller parts.

I blew past 5k a long time ago. I don't miss the days of wondering if my **** pile was going to hold together during my next drive. You want a nice car, get ready to spend the money. I can say that it is better to just spend the money.

OP is completely unrealistic.
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I fear this post will likely just fuel the fire, and maybe even worst, it may even give some validity to Leafy's stupid post...

BUT

300hp for $5k including the car is basically what I'm doing right meow...


$2400 POS miata - CHECK

$130 Garrett T3S60 - CHECK

Ebay piping, intercooler, etc. etc. - $250

Used FM Stage 1 clutch - $50

Spare Engine to build - $50

Engine re-build including Forged Rods - $600

Log manifold - $200

Home made DP and exhaust - $150

Enhanced MS2 - $700

ID1000s - $400

Fuel Pump - $100

Oil lines, various other crap - $xxx?


So that's about $5030 plus oil lines and other little odds and ends.

So about $5100 and on E85 I think I'll have a reliable 300hp (whp maybe?).



Anyway, 18psi is right, it can be done, but the people that CAN do it, don't need to ask how to do it. The people that NEED to ask, likely cannot do it, and probably shouldn't try....

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