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Old 07-06-2009, 11:34 AM
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I bought these from Speedf50.

I had them cleaned though Deatschwerks. They all flow right around 350cc!!

I was planning on installing them along with the MS this weekend.


I have not done the calculations yet to see whether these will even support my current boost level or higher. Even if they will flow enough, will they be able to work?


What are they?
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wow, all flow 100cc less than they should... :(
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Maybe
93-95 Toyota Supra 3.0L 312cc - Maroon Top #23250-46030

Miata Turbo FAQ: Fuel Injectors

Not many red. 323 GTX are about that size but black tops.

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part numbers are key. 350cc should be fine with your 9psi, if you need more fuel get new ones or a cheap FMU.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
part numbers are key.
Originally Posted by speedf50
Part number 195500-2010.



Hopefully they are the Supra injectors, so I will not have to screw around with resistors. Actually, I really hope they just fit. The connector looks right..

I do not remember seeing a part number on them. I will have them back before the week is over. I am still keeping my fingers crossed that the receptionist read me the stats from someone else's injectors.

You will be able to see a pretty good before and after job from Deatschwerks.
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Hi,

I would appreciate it if you had waited at least one day (I was out of town) for my response to your pm before publicly shitting on my name.

As I already told you I purchased the injectors from a RX7 parts vendor and the part numbers ARE 195500-2010 signifying that they came from a 89-91 rx7 NA. You should have verified this before sending them away, the numbers are clearly printed on the sides of the red tops of the injectors.

I do not know how on earth they would be flowing a full 100cc less than specified, but if all of them are flowing around 350cc then it is very possible that you were read the wrong specs, I would appreciate it if you had a little bit of patience and waited until you receive the injectors back from Deastchwerks with the actual flow sheet before posting any more garbage about me.

Thank you.
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Originally Posted by speedf50
Hi,

I would appreciate it if you had waited at least one day (I was out of town) for my response to your pm before publicly shitting on my name.

As I already told you I purchased the injectors from a RX7 parts vendor and the part numbers ARE 195500-2010 signifying that they came from a 89-91 rx7 NA. You should have verified this before sending them away, the numbers are clearly printed on the sides of the red tops of the injectors.

I do not know how on earth they would be flowing a full 100cc less than specified, but if all of them are flowing around 350cc then it is very possible that you were read the wrong specs, I would appreciate it if you had a little bit of patience and waited until you receive the injectors back from Deastchwerks with the actual flow sheet before posting any more garbage about me.

Thank you.

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yeah, all he said was he bought them from you....


i've bought from two members here that sent a wrongly advertised part; a ACT HD PP, not a XT. and 295 low-ohm injectors, no 305cc high-ohms....

I don't think you tried to dupe him, nor was he trying to blame you.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
I don't think you tried to dupe him, nor was he trying to blame you.
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And hopefully this is all for nothing. I get the injectors back tomorrow.


I get very few car weekends, and I am just trying to prepare for if in fact they are not 460's so I can still do the install.
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The only reason I feel as if I need to defend my name is that your first post made it sound like I sold you falsely advertised injectors (sounded like that to me at least) before you had even verified the part numbers.

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When and where did he "publicly ****" on you?
And maybe I overreacted to the OP and his little ... I have bronchitis and when I read that post I felt especially like **** haha. Hopefully all of this will be sorted out in a civil manner when the OP gets the injectors back from cleaning.
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Those look like the same ones I have and I was told 460cc. I haven't had them flowed, but they don't seem like 460cc based on my req_fuel of 7.4 to get close to the base map. That's pretty close to 350cc. If they really only flow 350cc, I'm going to be disappointed too :(
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I cant see the picture but if the part number is correct and the are read top, they are 460cc injectors, or at least that's what they are gererally claimed to be from the factory. The are a direct plug in, I've used them before. I didn't have mine flowed, so I can't say what they actually flow.
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I wonder what Deatschwerks' opinion is on this. If this is something that happens on occasion maybe they can shed some light on it, that is having injectors flow 100cc less than their factory rating.
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Originally Posted by r808
I wonder what Deatschwerks' opinion is on this. If this is something that happens on occasion maybe they can shed some light on it, that is having injectors flow 100cc less than their factory rating.
Dunno, maybe toyota's they came in had a higher fuel pressure.
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I had my 460's cleaned around a month ago the final numbers were this

Static Dynamic
cc/min lbs/hr cc/min lbs/hr
490 46.7 366 34.9
489 46.6 366 34.9
480 45.7 361 34.4
483 46.0 364 34.7


so you may just be reading the low lbs/hr, using the chart they provide on the second page they flow 460cc at 40psi and 636cc at 75psi
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Originally Posted by tiber55
so Shannon at Deatchwerks may just be reading the low lbs/hr, using the chart they provide on the second page they flow 460cc at 40psi and 636cc at 75psi
Fixed it for you.

Looks like I need some new plastic rings on the bottom of the injectors. Think I will be able to source them with a quickness? Can I (should I) reuse the stock plastic thingys?

What are those twisted screens? Old filters?

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they should have included new o-rings for the bottom at least they did for me, not quite sure why they send the old pintle caps, since they include new ones.....
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nice pics. how much did everything cost you with shipping?
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76 for the service and 5 dollars to ship it to them using a flat rate envelope from usps. so 81, not the cheapest but tbh i tried talking to injector rehab about the group buy pricing but they never got back to me called again said they would have to talk to the boss and call me back..... didn't care to wait to see if the boss ever got back so i just went with the sponsored service.
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Cost me the same as tiber (forum discount).

DW is sending the new pintle caps. Round 1 of the MS install failed, so it was no big deal that the injectors were not ready.
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