ITT we discuss why my brand new 2871R seized
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Well...you could clean up (or not) the turbine blades and try it..what's the worst that an happen, you **** up the center section That's already gone.
EDIT: nevermind, yeah you could also f up your compressor. Hmmm. Nevermind.
EDIT: nevermind, yeah you could also f up your compressor. Hmmm. Nevermind.
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$466.30, actually. Going through ATP since I live half an hour from them.
One interesting note about the CHRA exchange program - they don't give a **** about the actual condition. It's based purely on the part number, and whether or not you disassembled the turbo or not. It could be as simple as a chewed up wheel, or as massive as a bent shaft and two destroyed wheels/bearings, it makes no difference to them. It's $xxx off, and they mail a brand new one out.
One interesting note about the CHRA exchange program - they don't give a **** about the actual condition. It's based purely on the part number, and whether or not you disassembled the turbo or not. It could be as simple as a chewed up wheel, or as massive as a bent shaft and two destroyed wheels/bearings, it makes no difference to them. It's $xxx off, and they mail a brand new one out.
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Besides drilling the heads of the bolts for safety wire, could it be easier to waterjet some thin sheet stock that's a little longer than the plates that hold on the turbine...bend tangs up onto the side of the bolt hex head to keep it from rotating? There's something on the car that uses this; I remember having to hammer them flat to remove the bolts.
Glad to see you'll be getting it back on the road. I've seen people run ridiculous chewed up missing blade turbos and make decent power, but your efficiency will be gone, and while it's worth the risk to a valueless turbo, it's not to something awesome like you've got. Plus, blowing chunks out the exhaust is one thing, sucking them into your head is another. Too much to lose.
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Yeah, I've seen those around tons. I didn't bother bringing it up since I thought everyone knew. :-P And predrilled bolts aren't hard to find, but for this I like the pair-wise-bendy-tabs.
Glad to see you'll be getting it back on the road. I've seen people run ridiculous chewed up missing blade turbos and make decent power, but your efficiency will be gone, and while it's worth the risk to a valueless turbo, it's not to something awesome like you've got. Plus, blowing chunks out the exhaust is one thing, sucking them into your head is another. Too much to lose.
Glad to see you'll be getting it back on the road. I've seen people run ridiculous chewed up missing blade turbos and make decent power, but your efficiency will be gone, and while it's worth the risk to a valueless turbo, it's not to something awesome like you've got. Plus, blowing chunks out the exhaust is one thing, sucking them into your head is another. Too much to lose.
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To be honest I don't think there's a chance in hell the bolts that hold the turbine housing to the chra backed out. (Unless you have an exhaust system that is too heavy or placing too much load/weight on your turbo that is improperlly secured/flex-jointed thus giving you all these bolt issues)
You likely forgot to torque them, and more safety wire or tabs is not going to do a dam thing.
Also please don't **** around and try to use that turbine wheel, that's just a bad idea on a race car.
You likely forgot to torque them, and more safety wire or tabs is not going to do a dam thing.
Also please don't **** around and try to use that turbine wheel, that's just a bad idea on a race car.
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Except for the part where I actually removed the turbo from the car, tightened all 12 at once, and then put the turbo back in the car. I distinctly remember taking a 10mm box wrench and tightening all 6 of them.
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I cracked my SS mani last year tracking because my exhaust was putting to much load on the turbo (and thus the mani)
I have never heard of anyone having this problem in any of the turbo racecars that race around here
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Ok so what's the deal with your exhaust system then, you got some lex joints and proper mounts ect?
I cracked my SS mani last year tracking because my exhaust was putting to much load on the turbo (and thus the mani)
I have never heard of anyone having this problem in any of the turbo racecars that race around here
I cracked my SS mani last year tracking because my exhaust was putting to much load on the turbo (and thus the mani)
I have never heard of anyone having this problem in any of the turbo racecars that race around here
edit: Oh, and nice hood risers.
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The exhaust housing stayed put fine. It's the CHRA and compressor housing that came off of the exhaust housing. His manifold is perfectly fine. If anything, using your logic it would have been the intercooler piping putting stress on the turbo.
edit: Oh, and nice hood risers.
edit: Oh, and nice hood risers.
And the hood risers are a long story (and sadly they are on there for good)
Sorry for misinterpreting your problem Sav :P My bad.
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My charge pipe has fallen off the compressor outlet 4 times in 4 days after staying put for a year. While frustrating, all that happens is a funny "pooooof" sound and 10 minutes to try it again at a different angle. If you're feeling jealous, you should be. Except for the extra 400 lbs and 30 less hp.
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I'm still for the thing being cocked on there. Even if only a bit. Certainly nothing else so far has made any sense, unless you out-and-out decide not to trust him when he says he tightened them.
My charge pipe has fallen off the compressor outlet 4 times in 4 days after staying put for a year. While frustrating, all that happens is a funny "pooooof" sound and 10 minutes to try it again at a different angle. If you're feeling jealous, you should be. Except for the extra 400 lbs and 30 less hp.
My charge pipe has fallen off the compressor outlet 4 times in 4 days after staying put for a year. While frustrating, all that happens is a funny "pooooof" sound and 10 minutes to try it again at a different angle. If you're feeling jealous, you should be. Except for the extra 400 lbs and 30 less hp.
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Sav just saw this thread, not sure why I missed it before. I feel your pain.
Yep I am the one that lost a GT2871 to poor application of teflon tape. Felt like an idiot. I also tapped into the Garrett CHRA exchange program, and ran it through ATP (via BEGI).
I'll be using resbond on my turbine bolts, and some kind of threadlocker on the compresor nuts. That or safety wire. If those bolts are metric, mcmaster will not have them pre-drilled, standard sizes only. If you figure out where to get some, let me know. I can drill them, but buying them is a lot easier.
Yep I am the one that lost a GT2871 to poor application of teflon tape. Felt like an idiot. I also tapped into the Garrett CHRA exchange program, and ran it through ATP (via BEGI).
I'll be using resbond on my turbine bolts, and some kind of threadlocker on the compresor nuts. That or safety wire. If those bolts are metric, mcmaster will not have them pre-drilled, standard sizes only. If you figure out where to get some, let me know. I can drill them, but buying them is a lot easier.
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Yeah, Garrett does have that program which is nice. I don't know what a CHRA normally costs but I'm sure it's not cheap. You can send in DESTROYED CHRAs (bent shaft, fucked wheels, etc) and they will still give you the full discount, too. You just have to not disassemble it, ever.