SolarYellow510

It's not that there aren't okay products coming from there, it's the total lack of control. If you're a supplier to Ford or Honda, and you put a bunch of marginal parts out there, you can have things that cost you X to make, giving you net profits of, say 0.10*X, come back and cost 7*X or more to replace when the dealer is installing them and being paid full boat for parts and labor. If just a tiny percentage fails, you're working for free, or even paying to come in every day. Way more fun to sit under Santa Monica pier with a bottle of Night Train, and more profitable, too.

If you're selling stuff to fly-by-night basement price hoes who sell on Ebay, it doesn't matter quite so much.

A manufacturing environment with poor controls may make lots of good parts, but it may also produce a lot of bad parts. And nobody involved may be aware of when it's going well and when it's going not so well. A company may accidentally make awesome material one day, and accidentally make dangerous material the next, and not even be aware of what they did different or why it mattered.

How many turbos from his potential chinacharger vendor has Corky done durability testing on, and from how many different production lots? Has he done compressor wheel burst tests? .... Someone who cares, feel free to ask him and post the answers in his forum.

Good luck with the chinachargers.

I decided on the following rules for buying tools from Harbor Freight a long time ago, and have been successful: If it has to be precise, has moving parts, has to be strong, or has to be sharp and cut something, get it elsewhere. If none of those apply, go to the store and inspect before buying.

My CXRacing radiator is still holding, but not everyone's is. I have a used OEM IHI WRX turbo waiting for me to figure out tuning.

damasodeljr

dont kno if i trust ebay

coastertrav

I hate all the chinacharger horror stories.

My roommate has been running one on his mustang for two years with no issues except that it has started to burn a little oil recently. We think it is due to the turbo sitting on it's end for long periods of time between cars (his old car was totaled and the same kit was put on his new car a few months later). He has sent it off to be rebuilt, and all is well.



Oh, and if you want a large chinacharger I have one for sale on ebay. Probably the best pictures a chinacharger has ever had...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...3270&viewitem=

18psi

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thats not that cheap. I've seen them for 120 shipped before

speedf50

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I'm considering pulling the trigger on this one:
eBay Motors: GT28 GT2870 Turbo Charger internal wastegate .86 A/R (item 400032809771 end time Feb-28-09 19:14:57 PST)

Its just a bummer that there aren't any in this size for ~$200 shipped like the gt2560 sized ones. I think they would go like hotcakes because people would like to try the bigger stuff with a T2 flange.

mazda/nissan

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w00t let the chinacharger testing begin!

patsmx5

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"I reject your reality and substitute my own"
Adam Savage.

I've seen chinachargers work well too. We all have. But the fact is they have a higher failure rate than other brands. Your argument is like saying "I drive a Yugo and it runs fine. Therefore Yugo's are reliable vehicles!" I'll admit, three times I've seen one moving on its own power. But I've seen far more in a junkyard. So while some may work ok and a few might even consider them "reliable". But that doesn't change the fact that a lot of them in the junk yard have less than 50k miles on the odometer.

I mostly agree with SolarYellow510. China lacks give-a-****. It might make them money, but it doesn't build them a solid reputation.

Saml01

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band new t4 turbocharger

patsmx5

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Like Garrett!

naarleven

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If drive a chinacharger and it works well, then chinachargers are reliable


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