NA1.6 Stock internals... advice please!
#81
And now we get to the heart of it.
Which makes me wonder why this comment pissed all the 1.6 owners off?
If the only advantage is cheapness, why throw money at cheapness? I have yet to hear someone with a turbo 1.6 say "If I had to do it again, I would stick with my 1.6." So why is Sav advising a noob to do what you all wish you could have done offensive?
Which makes me wonder why this comment pissed all the 1.6 owners off?
If the only advantage is cheapness, why throw money at cheapness? I have yet to hear someone with a turbo 1.6 say "If I had to do it again, I would stick with my 1.6." So why is Sav advising a noob to do what you all wish you could have done offensive?
Oh and, if I were to do it all over again I would stick with my 1.6. And I absolutely mean that. Now I am not saying if I bought a 1.8 car I would swap in a 1.6, that would just be stupid. The car came with that engine, both suck so stick with what you have. That is why I am saving up to swap the LS1 into my white car. Like I stated before, I think, and this is my personal opinion, for most applications that people use these turbo'd Miatas for, which are supped up street cars, the 1.6 does just fine.
#88
**** I bet, I'm sure you can hear those itb's just scream making that throttle so responsive. Probably snaps necks.
******* lol this is off topic, but the other night at in n out there was a riced the **** out integra. Had all the typical stupid stickers, but my my favorite was across the windshield on the bottom. It said in stupid looking script writing "snappin necks"
For some reason he didn't want to race my gay little 1.6 Miata. Strange really.
******* lol this is off topic, but the other night at in n out there was a riced the **** out integra. Had all the typical stupid stickers, but my my favorite was across the windshield on the bottom. It said in stupid looking script writing "snappin necks"
For some reason he didn't want to race my gay little 1.6 Miata. Strange really.
#89
Here's why I'm "lazy" to do it.
1. I would have to look extremely hard for a decent 1.8 motor. Looking at 700+ for a used motor (CA rates).
2. Purchasing FM swap kit
3. Figure out how to get said 1.8 motor back to my house.
4. Convince the gf that a 1.8 motor is absolutely necessary.
5. It takes up space in my garage
6. Pull out 1.6 motor to install 1.8 motor
7. Sit on 1.6 motor till it's sold. Taking up garage space again.
8. Dealing with nagging gf on why at one point I had TWO motors in the garage, when the original 1.6 is still good.
9. Assuming I went 1.8 turbo these series of event will happen: get rolled by cops, hood gets popped, receive ref ticket (which will be by second one. I got one for my wrx). Go to court, judge will ask wtf is wrong with me, gives me two options: junk the car or pass the ref.
10. Go to ref station with 1.8 motor. Referee will notice 1.8 motor did not come in '92. Will asked if the motor was ever BAR certified (regardless if it's legal to put a newer motor in). Another fking headache.
11. Get everything all sorted out with ref ticket. Pay fking expensive *** fine.
12. At the end of the day, feel retarded for listening to a bunch of dudes from the interweb, convincing you a 1.8 swap is worth doing, when your end goal is only 220whp.
14. GF breaks up with for being an idiot.
15. Joins one way mission to Mars to live out the remainder of your life on a planet that doesn't even have oxygen. Jumps out of airlock, dies.
See a 1.8 motor swap isn't as simple as everyone makes it out to be. It doesn't meet my end goals, so yeah, pretty lazy on that part.
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There are too many variables here. In my mind the hierarchy goes like this:
LSX > built 1.8 > built 1.6 > oem 1.8 > oem 1.6
So imo, Ryan is a big step above most of the forum with his uber 1.6.
LSX > built 1.8 > built 1.6 > oem 1.8 > oem 1.6
So imo, Ryan is a big step above most of the forum with his uber 1.6.
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I know we here at mt.net are supposed to be a bunch of hard asses, and if he was just another member on here no one would really care, but he isn't and people take what he says more seriously.
And to the first part that you quoted, I'm not sure what is so "wat" about it? I didn't buy a stock car. I bought one that was already quite modified. If I wanted to start out on a fresh, stock car it would be a 1.8. But I didn't, I wanted something that was already in the ball park of where I wanted it, and it just so happened it was a 1.6.
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#95
My 2c is that the 1.6 is similarly competitive in MY experience with a 6 speed on the circuit because the low end the 1.8 makes wont help it.
The last 1.6 I built that everyone bitches about FTD 80 cars by 2.5 seconds on Monday, including some very well sorted big dollar 1.9L builds.
I still think a 1.8L would be better but there are nice things about 1.6Ls for a lot of people, cheap buy in, very cheap baller setups because they are '****', and PnP ecus with very good basemaps for very cheap.
Dann
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Let's put it this way: My naturally aspirated 1.8 liter PTE car makes more torque than your 1.6 turbo car does at ~4000rpm.
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Because he just told a lot of people that have put money into building their cars that they are stubborn, lazy and wasted their money.
I know we here at mt.net are supposed to be a bunch of hard asses, and if he was just another member on here no one would really care, but he isn't and people take what he says more seriously.
And to the first part that you quoted, I'm not sure what is so "wat" about it? I didn't buy a stock car. I bought one that was already quite modified. If I wanted to start out on a fresh, stock car it would be a 1.8. But I didn't, I wanted something that was already in the ball park of where I wanted it, and it just so happened it was a 1.6.
I know we here at mt.net are supposed to be a bunch of hard asses, and if he was just another member on here no one would really care, but he isn't and people take what he says more seriously.
And to the first part that you quoted, I'm not sure what is so "wat" about it? I didn't buy a stock car. I bought one that was already quite modified. If I wanted to start out on a fresh, stock car it would be a 1.8. But I didn't, I wanted something that was already in the ball park of where I wanted it, and it just so happened it was a 1.6.
Like, omg, weren't in the army? did they teach you how to cry like this there?