Thoughts on Broke n Boosted? Budget Turbo Series
#21
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he's not proving anything. You act like none of us have run an FMU before...
This site literally started as a Greddy kit modification site--the only afford turbo "kit" for a miata at the time. It consisted of a shitty manifold that cracked constantly. A shitty turbo that spooled like **** and couldn't hold boost to redline. A short charge pipe that connected to the stock accordion. A short 2" DP that connected to the stock midpipe. A 12:1 Vortech FMU. An oil feed. and about (6) feet of oil return hose.
https://www.miataturbo.net/bgracer/GReddyFAQ.htm
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One way to cool a track miata: Place all turbo components "up and out", a-la hood delete.
cooling the engine bay means little to ******* nothing. No one gives a **** about underhood temps except drifters with hood risers. What he did with his radiator is what's actually impressive.
I duno, if it is built by someone who know's what they are doing (Say a pair of turbo engineers from mazda) it can be done stupidly and cheaply
https://www.miataturbo.net/build-thr...ons-car-25699/
#28
the turbo manifold is the stock header flipped around.
cooling the engine bay means little to ******* nothing. No one gives a **** about underhood temps except drifters with hood risers. What he did with his radiator is what's actually impressive.
Frankenmiata had a build thread here, he used to be a active senior member of this site. He literally works for Garrett Turbos.
https://www.miataturbo.net/build-thr...ons-car-25699/
cooling the engine bay means little to ******* nothing. No one gives a **** about underhood temps except drifters with hood risers. What he did with his radiator is what's actually impressive.
Frankenmiata had a build thread here, he used to be a active senior member of this site. He literally works for Garrett Turbos.
https://www.miataturbo.net/build-thr...ons-car-25699/
#32
This build represents everything us senior members here worked so hard for, for you minions not to ever have to repeat or go through yourselves, back when we founded this site in 2005/6. Back when you could only buy a FM or GReddy turbo kit. Back when you didn't have 20 ECU options. Back when we were still trying to fine-tune FMUs and fuel pressure. Back when we were building o2-clamps and custom autotuning features for the EMB. Back when the best injector you could run for a miata was a leaky 550cc Rx7 injector. Back when we were tuning the clockspring in AFMs and replacing them with Rx7 AFMs. Back when we started running chinachargers. Back when we figured out how to easily run COP setups. Back when we started making 3" exhausts the norm for boosted miatas. Back when we figured out the best Magnaflow Muffler to use. Back we we figured out the best suspension setups and broke all the conventional "wisdom" from m.net. Hell even the MS3 firmware today has features and improvements DIRECTLY as result from this site.
My signature on this site used to be: I fail so you don't have to.
All he doing is using all the **** hardware that we've all already tried, tested, and written off; but we didn't do it to impress our drifter friends on YT. He might be doing it for fun, but there are dumbasses like the OP here that want to replicate this shitty, failure-prone, joke of a build, just to save $100.
It's insulting to us founding members of this site that are still around and made turboing a miata WAY too easy for you guys and you still wanna go back to primitive **** parts. Spoiled little "broke" ******* children who haven't even ******* graduated HS yet.
My signature on this site used to be: I fail so you don't have to.
All he doing is using all the **** hardware that we've all already tried, tested, and written off; but we didn't do it to impress our drifter friends on YT. He might be doing it for fun, but there are dumbasses like the OP here that want to replicate this shitty, failure-prone, joke of a build, just to save $100.
It's insulting to us founding members of this site that are still around and made turboing a miata WAY too easy for you guys and you still wanna go back to primitive **** parts. Spoiled little "broke" ******* children who haven't even ******* graduated HS yet.
*edit: reminded me of this
#33
For those who haven't watched a lot of the videos, I actually recommend coming here to this forum to get more information on turbocharging, and have linked the "All Your Questions" thread countless times. With or without the videos, people are going to run crap turbo setups. Do you really have THAT big of a problem with people running 150whp safely on FMU/Stock ECU setups? A lot of people (a LOTTTT) come to me with questions every single day about turbo setups, and I constantly recommend building the car the 'proper' way, the behind the scenes stuff that nobody else sees (although I'm sure you think my other car is crap too). I spend a ton of my free time giving out information that I took the time to learn here because a lot of people hate this place with a passion (even though they are missing out on a wealth of information). The sole mission of my YouTube channel is not building a crap turbo Miata; which is why I spend hours every week doing an array of other videos as well. My channel provides a friendly environment for people to come to for help on their builds, and give people confidence about working on their own cars. And to show people that you DON'T need 250whp, you DON'T need a 1.8, and you DON'T need a high dollar build just to have FUN. I learn from other people, from my own videos, from my own mistakes, and from my own wasted time and money to make an attempt at putting good information out to people. I've filmed and re-filmed multiple videos because I made a mistake because I take pride in the work I do. It's far from perfect and I know that. But making videos on YT to impress my friends? Get real.
/rant
Good day sirs,
Greg / TheCarPassionChannel
/rant
Good day sirs,
Greg / TheCarPassionChannel
#34
For those who haven't watched a lot of the videos, I actually recommend coming here to this forum to get more information on turbocharging, and have linked the "All Your Questions" thread countless times. With or without the videos, people are going to run crap turbo setups. Do you really have THAT big of a problem with people running 150whp safely on FMU/Stock ECU setups?
Stock ECU anything not already programmed for boost, Yes
A lot of people (a LOTTTT) come to me with questions every single day about turbo setups, and I constantly recommend building the car the 'proper' way, the behind the scenes stuff that nobody else sees (although I'm sure you think my other car is crap too).
Not really...
I spend a ton of my free time giving out information that I took the time to learn here because a lot of people hate this place with a passion (even though they are missing out on a wealth of information).
The sole mission of my YouTube channel is not building a crap turbo Miata; which is why I spend hours every week doing an array of other videos as well. My channel provides a friendly environment for people to come to for help on their builds, and give people confidence about working on their own cars. And to show people that you DON'T need 250whp, you DON'T need a 1.8, and you DON'T need a high dollar build just to have FUN.
All points are valid, though it's the doing it incorrectly even if you're doing it as cheap as possible. I've come to known MT as hate of failure, simply because of the wealth of current information available.
I learn from other people, from my own videos, from my own mistakes, and from my own wasted time and money to make an attempt at putting good information out to people. I've filmed and re-filmed multiple videos because I made a mistake because I take pride in the work I do. It's far from perfect and I know that. But making videos on YT to impress my friends? Get real.
We appreciate your efforts on spreading correct how-to information. In sort of a proxy way, you became the YT noob buffer. Most hate MT, because they want to be spoon fed and don't do any real research on their own.
/rant
Good day sirs,
Greg / TheCarPassionChannel
Stock ECU anything not already programmed for boost, Yes
A lot of people (a LOTTTT) come to me with questions every single day about turbo setups, and I constantly recommend building the car the 'proper' way, the behind the scenes stuff that nobody else sees (although I'm sure you think my other car is crap too).
Not really...
I spend a ton of my free time giving out information that I took the time to learn here because a lot of people hate this place with a passion (even though they are missing out on a wealth of information).
The sole mission of my YouTube channel is not building a crap turbo Miata; which is why I spend hours every week doing an array of other videos as well. My channel provides a friendly environment for people to come to for help on their builds, and give people confidence about working on their own cars. And to show people that you DON'T need 250whp, you DON'T need a 1.8, and you DON'T need a high dollar build just to have FUN.
All points are valid, though it's the doing it incorrectly even if you're doing it as cheap as possible. I've come to known MT as hate of failure, simply because of the wealth of current information available.
I learn from other people, from my own videos, from my own mistakes, and from my own wasted time and money to make an attempt at putting good information out to people. I've filmed and re-filmed multiple videos because I made a mistake because I take pride in the work I do. It's far from perfect and I know that. But making videos on YT to impress my friends? Get real.
We appreciate your efforts on spreading correct how-to information. In sort of a proxy way, you became the YT noob buffer. Most hate MT, because they want to be spoon fed and don't do any real research on their own.
/rant
Good day sirs,
Greg / TheCarPassionChannel
#36
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Your build and channel is fine, I just like to hate.
I wish you had done the broke and boosted build a bit differently--shown how cheap and easy one can do it using semi-decent parts--but that's me.
I wish you had done the broke and boosted build a bit differently--shown how cheap and easy one can do it using semi-decent parts--but that's me.
Last edited by Braineack; 05-04-2016 at 07:06 AM.
#38
For those who haven't watched a lot of the videos, I actually recommend coming here to this forum to get more information on turbocharging, and have linked the "All Your Questions" thread countless times. With or without the videos, people are going to run crap turbo setups. Do you really have THAT big of a problem with people running 150whp safely on FMU/Stock ECU setups? A lot of people (a LOTTTT) come to me with questions every single day about turbo setups, and I constantly recommend building the car the 'proper' way, the behind the scenes stuff that nobody else sees (although I'm sure you think my other car is crap too). I spend a ton of my free time giving out information that I took the time to learn here because a lot of people hate this place with a passion (even though they are missing out on a wealth of information). The sole mission of my YouTube channel is not building a crap turbo Miata; which is why I spend hours every week doing an array of other videos as well. My channel provides a friendly environment for people to come to for help on their builds, and give people confidence about working on their own cars. And to show people that you DON'T need 250whp, you DON'T need a 1.8, and you DON'T need a high dollar build just to have FUN. I learn from other people, from my own videos, from my own mistakes, and from my own wasted time and money to make an attempt at putting good information out to people. I've filmed and re-filmed multiple videos because I made a mistake because I take pride in the work I do. It's far from perfect and I know that. But making videos on YT to impress my friends? Get real.
/rant
Good day sirs,
Greg / TheCarPassionChannel
/rant
Good day sirs,
Greg / TheCarPassionChannel
Bad things happen when you blur the line between subjective and objective.
Nothing against you personally, but I'm curious:
What happens when the next batch of morons think $200 is way too high of a budget to turbo a miata? Who makes the call ultimately?
It blows my mind how low the standard can continually be re-set. It's why this country is going down the toilet.
#39
Their hatered is a compliment to this forum. We pride ourselves of being pretty much the last of our kind.
Bad things happen when you blur the line between subjective and objective.
Nothing against you personally, but I'm curious:
What happens when the next batch of morons think $200 is way too high of a budget to turbo a miata? Who makes the call ultimately?
It blows my mind how low the standard can continually be re-set. It's why this country is going down the toilet.
Bad things happen when you blur the line between subjective and objective.
Nothing against you personally, but I'm curious:
What happens when the next batch of morons think $200 is way too high of a budget to turbo a miata? Who makes the call ultimately?
It blows my mind how low the standard can continually be re-set. It's why this country is going down the toilet.
TL;DR: There is definitely a line somewhere. Corners can be cut, and this series is proving to be a learning experience for me as well about finding where it is with my own hands. I'm planning on doing a "What I Would Do Differently" video of sorts when the project is finished, but I'll have to beat on it for a while to figure out what I'll include.