Unsure if I should keep 2560 or go to a 2871
06-07-2011, 01:46 PM
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Here's Borg's 2011 catalog.
http://www.turbodriven.com/files/pdf...alog_SMALL.pdf
To convert inches to mm use google e.g., 3 inches in mm
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06-07-2011, 01:59 PM
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06-07-2011, 02:51 PM
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Blown Garretts
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Also look on ebay and again, blown garrett BB turbos FS are common there.
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06-07-2011, 03:01 PM
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Back to the core.
Has anyone regretted going to a 2871 or similar and or can let me know what they like / dislike about their large Garrett?
Maps are great but I also like first hand reviews.
Has anyone regretted going to a 2871 or similar and or can let me know what they like / dislike about their large Garrett?
Maps are great but I also like first hand reviews.
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06-07-2011, 03:07 PM
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I am also jumping the Garrett ship.
I'm not okay with depending on garrett GT turbos to work with my current hotside. The price/performance arrangement is not worth it at all, not even close. T3 is much more liberating, Hoslet, Borg Warner and other diesel turbos from now on for me.
Garrett is not even close to being at the top of the turbo food chain anymore.
EDIT: back on topic. Savington loves his 2871. Lots of people are fine using larger garrett GT turbos. But it doesn't hurt to look at what else is out there on the market.
Some of the cars I've driven/ridin'/owned have used a wide range of Garrett turbos. I've driven cars with the T25G, GT2554, GTiR 2560, GT2560, Disco 'tater and a 2871 .64 car. The difference between the 'tater and 2871 was nominal. Then again, not all setups where equal. The GT2560 had torque like a mother ******. Down low my 2554 is nice @14-15psi, but it's not what I'm looking for anymore and the price to jump to a 2871 is what scares me away. I can build a entire new hotside and have a plethora of cheap, sturdy, power house turbos for right around the same price as a new GT2871.
EDIT (2): Is there a chance you can get a ride in a car that is setup similarly to what you want or perhaps a gt2871 car? That is what helped me the most in deciding what I wanted.
Good luck.
I'm not okay with depending on garrett GT turbos to work with my current hotside. The price/performance arrangement is not worth it at all, not even close. T3 is much more liberating, Hoslet, Borg Warner and other diesel turbos from now on for me.
Garrett is not even close to being at the top of the turbo food chain anymore.
EDIT: back on topic. Savington loves his 2871. Lots of people are fine using larger garrett GT turbos. But it doesn't hurt to look at what else is out there on the market.
Some of the cars I've driven/ridin'/owned have used a wide range of Garrett turbos. I've driven cars with the T25G, GT2554, GTiR 2560, GT2560, Disco 'tater and a 2871 .64 car. The difference between the 'tater and 2871 was nominal. Then again, not all setups where equal. The GT2560 had torque like a mother ******. Down low my 2554 is nice @14-15psi, but it's not what I'm looking for anymore and the price to jump to a 2871 is what scares me away. I can build a entire new hotside and have a plethora of cheap, sturdy, power house turbos for right around the same price as a new GT2871.
EDIT (2): Is there a chance you can get a ride in a car that is setup similarly to what you want or perhaps a gt2871 car? That is what helped me the most in deciding what I wanted.
Good luck.
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06-07-2011, 03:44 PM
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If you're planning to use your VVT, then the 2871 is probably the smallest turbo you'd ever want. I'm using a 2876 and I have no complaints about lag based on where I find myself in the power band. If I'm above 3k, it pulls nicely until it pulls like mad.
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06-07-2011, 03:49 PM
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06-07-2011, 03:52 PM
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So yes VVT is running and will be utilized.
I trust your judgement - tell me about these specs on a 2871:
Comp.
Ind Exd Trim A/R
53.1mm 71.0mm 56 0.60
Turbine
Wh Dia Trim A/R
53.9mm 76 0.64
Will I be satisfied with the spool running that to 12psi until I go built next spring?
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06-07-2011, 03:55 PM
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More units sold mean more volume of failures even at a lower failure rate than a tranny with a higher faulure rate on a minivan that sold way less units.
Statistics can prove anything, 10% of all people know that.......
(Simpsons)
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06-07-2011, 04:40 PM
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I had the same correlation done with tranny failures of a common minivan.
More units sold mean more volume of failures even at a lower failure rate than a tranny with a higher faulure rate on a minivan that sold way less units.
Statistics can prove anything, 10% of all people know that.......
(Simpsons)
More units sold mean more volume of failures even at a lower failure rate than a tranny with a higher faulure rate on a minivan that sold way less units.
Statistics can prove anything, 10% of all people know that.......
(Simpsons)
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06-07-2011, 04:54 PM
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The 2nd week after I bought Rev's MS I bought the VVT box. (my turbo was failing at the same time I went to MS so I thought the VVT was why I was down on power)
So yes VVT is running and will be utilized.
I trust your judgement - tell me about these specs on a 2871:
Comp.
Ind Exd Trim A/R
53.1mm 71.0mm 56 0.60
Turbine
Wh Dia Trim A/R
53.9mm 76 0.64
Will I be satisfied with the spool running that to 12psi until I go built next spring?
So yes VVT is running and will be utilized.
I trust your judgement - tell me about these specs on a 2871:
Comp.
Ind Exd Trim A/R
53.1mm 71.0mm 56 0.60
Turbine
Wh Dia Trim A/R
53.9mm 76 0.64
Will I be satisfied with the spool running that to 12psi until I go built next spring?
there will be posts following this telling you to get the .86 A/R housing I'm sure. you may also want to consider skipping the internal wastegate and going straight to an external wastegate.
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06-07-2011, 05:11 PM
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Ok whatever guys keep smoking the garrett long wong.
No **** more units in existence equals more failures. The total overall failure rate is still very high though.
Did you really not even notice in this very thread that two garrett customers in our small community have had BB failures? That is a high percentage of failure, period.
If you want to stick your head in the sand go ahead.
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