Soviet Era Car, Space Age Turbo. EFR 6758

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Old 10-13-2012, 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
Looks photoshopped. The shadows are all wrong. Definitely fake.
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well done Soviet, this is most impressive!

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Originally Posted by thirdgen
Please tell me more about that orange line coming off the breather. Where does it go, and details/ etc.
It goes to a catch can which is mounted on the passenger side firewall. It is a -12an line covered in fire sleeve.

Those numbers look amazing.
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HoleeShitman strikes again.
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I was going to drive over and meet up to this...but my 220rwhp is so slow i count make it. I went into reverse and cried.

I need to see what one of those turbos could do on a 1.6L...that's just crazy impressive.
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Well that looks like fun!
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Soviet is busy having victory secx with his harem so i will answer quesions in hus stead.

Originally Posted by bcrx7
I'm going for 30-32PSI max. I better get my 575 crank power at that point!
If you only make 550whp at that psi then there is zero hope for me to break 600 with my s366 at the same psi. *****.

Originally Posted by Reverant
Was somehow expecting a little more. Got 420whp on the GT3076 car, with the ignition retarded 5 degrees due to no water in the WI system and me not noticing on the final pulls. 5 degrees is like 40-50whp on this setup. Ok, that was at 29psi though.

So, in another news, IN SOVIET RUSSIA, BOOST TURNS UP YOU!

Yah. So.

Details on the three runs:

Run 1: Wastegate, 17psi
Run 2: 23psi
Run 3: 26psi, plus 2* timing

I think the car can hit 450hp on e85 and 10psi more . The little power taper up top could probably be flattened up with more timing in the last two columns.

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Originally Posted by Faeflora
Soviet is busy having victory secx with his harem so i will answer quesions in hus stead.
Yus. after dyno, we went to some ------ry "car meet" because it just happened to be next door. Scott promised to show up - didn't. After that I spent time with le girlfriend and went to autox today. Just got home.

Car rapes face, turbine wheel didn't explode. Autocrossed at 300whp (wastegate pressure) Autocross is pointless in this car right now because it just spins wheels. Its a hoot but wears out tires quickly. So I'm going to stop autox. Problem solved.

Originally Posted by thirdgen
Please tell me more about that orange line coming off the breather. Where does it go, and details/ etc.
Lars is correct, it's a -12AN line going to a catch can with a breather. It's always dry. I get vapor out of the catch can, that's about it. PCV hole is welded shut.

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What gears / tranny?
6 speed, 3.9 gears, 5th gear on dyno.
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So has MT finally found the "HOLY GRAIL"?
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And here's what everyone really cares about.


However, I don't think that chart fully represents EFR6258. Simply because back then I had very simplistic boost control (open-loop EBC with boost duty table that just had same duty % everywhere).

So here's an example of EFR6258 with my simplistic boost control vs EFR6758 on just wastegate - 17-18psi vs like 17psi peak on wastegate. 6258 clearly wins in spool.


And finally, closed-loop EBC vs wastegate on EFR6758. This clearly shows how superior closed-loop EBC is and why you'd be stupid to not run it.


24.5 vs 17psi, identical timing map on both runs.
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That poor transmission, lol.
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Originally Posted by hustler
That poor transmission, lol.
Pretty sure I'm at the limit of my drivetrain and I DO NOT want to play the expensive "lets stuff a drivetrain from another car into a miata" game.
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Thats what I would expect.

Now put some cams in it.
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Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie
Thats what I would expect.

Now put some cams in it.
How about I put some wiener in your puss?
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Awesome numbers, congrats.

Fae said "stock crappy 1.8 head" is that a NA head? 99-00? 01+? I guess I need to go study your build thread, I want my car to be just like yours when it grows up.
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Originally Posted by pdexta
Awesome numbers, congrats.

Fae said "stock crappy 1.8 head" is that a NA head? 99-00? 01+? I guess I need to go study your build thread, I want my car to be just like yours when it grows up.
Soviet is running a stock 94-97 1.8 head.
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Actually its a 99-00 IIRC
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Imagine the dyno chart with VVT. Faster spool. Better top end.
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I wouldn't do anything for top end. But faster spool, most definitely
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VVT head, porting and a turbo intake if he doesn't already have one. That spool is pretty badass though, not going to lie. If I only had 5k to throw down on my car...
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