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Old 12-01-2006, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Snowsurfer03
WOAH NOW WAIT A MINUTE! You are making that much power with only an AFPR and Bipes?!

Not to mention on the crappy mustang dyno.
I know, I'd be jealous if I wasnt running on pump gas. LOL.

Andy you are a MADMAN! Love that about your setup. It's the ghettocharger of engine management. LOL.

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Dammit i'll be there next time for sure Andy gotta get brian my car today and then we can see what the dammage is i realy wanted to go but oh well **** happens.
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Like i said before if you need some methanol once you get that far let me know.
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absolutely awesome figures. bet your well happy with that!

Power i dream of!
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Originally Posted by AndyFloyd
I dont think the duty % is that high since the stock ecu is still controlling the injectors the duty cycle is whatever the stock 1.6L ecu allows...not sure what it is but would guess its not past .85.

yes true, drop the BFSC numbers a tad to .5 and it's right on 331cc at 85%
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Originally Posted by white90na
Why lean out the mixture? Why not bump the timing up instead, that'll give you more power. Or doesn't the Bipes give you enough control?
Because 10.5 AFR's are WAY too rich, especially with 110 octane fuel. I could get away with 12.0 AFR's on 110 octane easily and most likely gain about 15whp after 5000rpm.
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Originally Posted by Markp
I know, I'd be jealous if I wasnt running on pump gas. LOL.

Andy you are a MADMAN! Love that about your setup. It's the ghettocharger of engine management. LOL.

Mark
LOL yeah, I have ghettocharger EMS, and you have TEC III-R. I have a GT turbo and you have a Chinacharger. I think you will make a lot of power when you dyno. If you can utilize your extra rpms and hold torque deep into the rpms youll make a nice amount of hp not to mention a fat powerband.
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Originally Posted by braineack
yes true, drop the BFSC numbers a tad to .5 and it's right on 331cc at 85%
.5 is a very efficient motor. There's no way a 10:1 stock ecu turbo car at WOT is running that efficient. I think that injector duty cycle is increased--not because the ecu is capable of doing so--but because 115psi (more than double design) of fuel in the rail is hard to squeeze off.

The guy running the dyno where I went asked me if the injectors go static on wot. If they do, that explains why I couldn't lean out my fuel curve.
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Originally Posted by tabs604
absolutely awesome figures. bet your well happy with that!

Power i dream of!
Honestly it doesnt feel fast to me anymore. Thats why when I go back next time its with a standalone. Ill be running over 20psi at that point too.
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Originally Posted by Ben
.5 is a very efficient motor. There's no way a 10:1 stock ecu turbo car at WOT is running that efficient. I think that injector duty cycle is increased--not because the ecu is capable of doing so--but because 115psi (more than double design) of fuel in the rail is hard to squeeze off.

The guy running the dyno where I went asked me if the injectors go static on wot. If they do, that explains why I couldn't lean out my fuel curve.
true. who knows...he does have a built 1.8. RC calcs get you in the ballpark at least.
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Originally Posted by Ben
.5 is a very efficient motor. There's no way a 10:1 stock ecu turbo car at WOT is running that efficient. I think that injector duty cycle is increased--not because the ecu is capable of doing so--but because 115psi (more than double design) of fuel in the rail is hard to squeeze off.

The guy running the dyno where I went asked me if the injectors go static on wot. If they do, that explains why I couldn't lean out my fuel curve.
well I dont know honestly. I understand where you are coming from thinking that at pressures that high the injectors will just lock open and dump fuel. I am still sticking with the stock ecu keeping duty cycle under control even at higher pressures. if you look at any stock ecu dyno they all go pig rich from 5000rpm on up. Even the stock car is that way. Leaning out the fuel curve in the upper rpms with the shitty management I have is impossible, I can only do so much.
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Andy,

You were using water injection?
What size nozzle and what pump psi?
50/50 water/meth mix?
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That's the hotness. Nice job!
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Originally Posted by lukydvll
Andy,

You were using water injection?
What size nozzle and what pump psi?
50/50 water/meth mix?
nah, I dont have it hooked up yet. WOT is gonna kill me.
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Old 12-01-2006, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by AndyFloyd
nah, I dont have it hooked up yet. WOT is gonna kill me.
I'm looking at this nitrous kit I have sitting in the house... thinking... Do I?

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PS - It's a 75 shot.
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Originally Posted by Markp
I'm looking at this nitrous kit I have sitting in the house... thinking... Do I?

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PS - It's a 75 shot.
What are you waiting for?
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Originally Posted by Markp
I'm looking at this nitrous kit I have sitting in the house... thinking... Do I?

Mark

PS - It's a 75 shot.
dude, ******* do it. I have been pondering the same thing...
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andy, are you sad you can't post "300 whp" in your sig?
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if he converts to dynojet he could.
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