Originally Posted by thenuge26
Unless they changed something for the MSM that wasn't evident in my short google search, it's the same as the 01+. Which is that the ECU waits for a signal from the immobilizer to start. As long as whatever standalone you have isn't set up to work with the immobilizer (I know some do) it will just ignore that signal.
I assume you talked to Shane at Aim tuning? I would be surprised if he can't tune it or can't find someone who could, since lots of people also got them from FM. Especially since (I assume) the vast majority of the crowd who get hydra from FM aren't going to tune it themselves.
When you walk into Shane's shop, there's a big whiteboard on the backwall of the main shop area. (Not the dyno room.)
Item #1 on the "To Do List" is "Work Less."
I have to go to Aim this week and pick up my $275 Hydra wideband sensor that i had overnighted to the shop in Fall of 2011 for a scheduled tuning session that was pushed back and rescheduled.
Then pushed back and rescheduled again.
Then pushed back and not rescheduled.
Contact was made again in early 2012 with the intention of trying once again to schedule some tuning time. Was told that March/April would be great, and i'd be notified when the time came. No notification came.
I like Shane. He's a REALLY nice guy, and VERY smart. I'd trust him to tune the car in a heartbeat. From a business perspective, he could probably use some improvement. Or i need to build a Spec Miata car, since it seems like he has those coming in and out constantly. I don't see many street cars in his shop.
So really... a big portion of the issue i have with Hydra is that there's no readily available local support. There's two guys down in Louisville area that will attempt it. One has little to no experience with it, and hasn't done many Miatas, so pass. The other, i'm going to give a shot, and he even happens to have my Escort right now.
I even called 3-4 shops in CHICAGO, and they pretty much refused to talk to me further once i informed them what EMS was on the car.
There's really no value whatsoever in this product. None.
If i were to install an EMS with the idea that i'd tune it myself, i'd go Megasquirt, hands down. If i were to go with something i'd have a pro do, i'd contact the pro and find out what they're comfortable with, and go with that. You might find ONE guy in the country that would choose Hydra. Within 2 hours of my location, i'm looking at Haltech or AEM.
I'll be going Haltech if my dislike of Hydra reaches boiling point.