Honda intake manifold - Page 7 - Miata Turbo Forum -Boost cars, acquire cats.

Welcome to Miataturbo.net   Members
 


Engine Performance This section is for discussion on all engine building related questions. KMiata

Reply
 
 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 01-26-2010, 04:48 PM   #121
Elite Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Posts: 4,654
Total Cats: 209
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fireindc View Post
+1, this thread needs more pics. Especially since its been done before!

Someone make these and sell them for a reasonable price with proven gains.
Im not sure who did this but Ive had these pics on my computer for a while now. Im pretty sure the manifold was for a GSR (B18C1), and that a BP flange mated to it pretty easily.







Full_Tilt_Boogie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2010, 05:03 PM   #122
Junior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Niagara Falls, ON
Posts: 433
Total Cats: 0
Default

Wasn`t BEGi building a throttle body for the 1.6L motor?
stranges12712 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2010, 05:20 PM   #123
Boost Czar

iTrader: (60)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 70,401
Total Cats: 1,426
Default

you mean IM....did you miss my posts?
Braineack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2010, 08:21 PM   #124
Guest
iTrader: (6)
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Vaughan, On, Canada
Posts: 1,092
Total Cats: 0
Default

Here are some old pictures....
Attached Thumbnails
Honda intake manifold-imgp0215.jpg   Honda intake manifold-dcp00703.jpg   Honda intake manifold-engine.jpg  
M-Tuned is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2010, 08:27 PM   #125
Guest
iTrader: (6)
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Vaughan, On, Canada
Posts: 1,092
Total Cats: 0
Default

Anyone know if anyone makes a BP Intake Manifold flange? I have access to a stock Axura Integra GSR intake manifold and a Type-R but I need some flanges to play. Our dyno arrives in March and this could be a fun project assuming I have time
M-Tuned is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2010, 09:50 PM   #126
Elite Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Tigard, Oregon
Posts: 3,908
Total Cats: 0
Default

So what's the most ghetto fab way to join the cut off miata bracket to the honda runners that would actually work? JB Weld? Aluminum brazing rod? Duct tape? Chewing gum? Or would this have to be welded proper.
cueball1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2010, 10:47 PM   #127
Elite Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Freehold, NJ
Posts: 1,577
Total Cats: -2
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc@M-Tuned.com View Post
Anyone know if anyone makes a BP Intake Manifold flange? I have access to a stock Axura Integra GSR intake manifold and a Type-R but I need some flanges to play. Our dyno arrives in March and this could be a fun project assuming I have time
you're the shop lol, why not cut the stock one off use it as a mold and make some new ones out of it
disturbedfan121 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2010, 11:52 PM   #128
Junior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Lisle, IL
Posts: 296
Total Cats: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cueball1 View Post
So what's the most ghetto fab way to join the cut off miata bracket to the honda runners that would actually work? JB Weld? Aluminum brazing rod? Duct tape? Chewing gum? Or would this have to be welded proper.
Hmm, us "great minds" think alike! I've been wondering if cutting off the Miata flange with about 2" runner stubs is a possibility. Open up the runner stubs to match the ID of the Honda manifold runners and then cut the Honda flange and about 2" of each runner off. Use 4 silicon hose couplers & 8 SS T-bolt clamps to physically join the Miata flange to the Honda manifold along with modifying/adapting the stock Miata intake manifold support to the Honda manifold so that the silicon hose connector tubes aren't holding any weight. Ghetto, but very functional. FWIW, Lycoming aircraft engines have logged millions of hours with these funking rubber/silicon connector hose intakes.

YMMV
sn95 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2010, 12:17 AM   #129
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: NHR, TX
Posts: 535
Total Cats: -1
Default

WOW, thats rigged, but it seems like the same concept alot of the ITB guys use when adapting GSXR throttle bodies to the miata.

Quote:
Originally Posted by sn95 View Post
Hmm, us "great minds" think alike! I've been wondering if cutting off the Miata flange with about 2" runner stubs is a possibility. Open up the runner stubs to match the ID of the Honda manifold runners and then cut the Honda flange and about 2" of each runner off. Use 4 silicon hose couplers & 8 SS T-bolt clamps to physically join the Miata flange to the Honda manifold along with modifying/adapting the stock Miata intake manifold support to the Honda manifold so that the silicon hose connector tubes aren't holding any weight. Ghetto, but very functional. FWIW, Lycoming aircraft engines have logged millions of hours with these funking rubber/silicon connector hose intakes.

YMMV
apariah is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2010, 07:25 AM   #130
meatbag
iTrader: (50)
 
gospeed81's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 7,357
Total Cats: 26
Default

Almost all motorcycles use a similar setup...but of course the couplings aren't supporting any weight.

Vibrations would be my main concern, but if you could properly support the plenum I'm sure it could work.


I'm going to try to get mine properly welded. It hits the band saw early saturday morning (when no one is on the shop floor yet), and will dress it over the weekend and check out these local aluminum welders in the Woodlands to see what they'll charge.


The only problem with couplers I see is that the honda runners are not straight.
gospeed81 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2010, 07:35 AM   #131
Guest
iTrader: (6)
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Vaughan, On, Canada
Posts: 1,092
Total Cats: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by disturbedfan121 View Post
you're the shop lol, why not cut the stock one off use it as a mold and make some new ones out of it
Our CNC guy will only do runs of 150 or more... I don't need that many flanges..... Do you???

Plus I don't want to hack up my OEM 2000 SE Manifold with 4 extra injectors.
M-Tuned is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2010, 07:38 AM   #132
Guest
iTrader: (6)
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Vaughan, On, Canada
Posts: 1,092
Total Cats: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cueball1 View Post
So what's the most ghetto fab way to join the cut off miata bracket to the honda runners that would actually work? JB Weld? Aluminum brazing rod? Duct tape? Chewing gum? Or would this have to be welded proper.
Personally I would say it needs to be Aluminum Welded.. You don't want it to separate. I've seen an intake with silicone couplers fail as the engine basically hits the redline as there is no T-Body restriction.
M-Tuned is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2010, 04:08 PM   #133
Junior Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 332
Total Cats: 0
Default

subscribed for interest

I had a skunk2 ITR intake manifold on my B16 civic. It def. increased the power on the top end. You can find used ITR/BLOX/SKUNK/OBX manifolds for like $100 shipped. I wonder what improvements this would give for an NA application.
longuyen88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2010, 08:51 PM   #134
Senior Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Murfreesboro,TN
Posts: 1,169
Total Cats: 29
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc@M-Tuned.com View Post
Our CNC guy will only do runs of 150 or more... I don't need that many flanges..... Do you???

Plus I don't want to hack up my OEM 2000 SE Manifold with 4 extra injectors.
Find someone that will burn them on a laser or cut them out on a water jet. Probably much cheaper than a machinist (they like their work too much, haha). If we had any short run capacity at work I'd look into running them on our laser (we can run up to 1" tooling steel). The finish on a laser isn't going to be awesome, but with a little clean up, it'd be good to go. Water jet (I wish we had one at work) could have a great finish right off the bed.
Midtenn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2010, 11:41 PM   #135
Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
dc2696's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Edmonton Ab, Canada
Posts: 1,152
Total Cats: 9
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Midtenn View Post
Find someone that will burn them on a laser or cut them out on a water jet. Probably much cheaper than a machinist (they like their work too much, haha). If we had any short run capacity at work I'd look into running them on our laser (we can run up to 1" tooling steel). The finish on a laser isn't going to be awesome, but with a little clean up, it'd be good to go. Water jet (I wish we had one at work) could have a great finish right off the bed.
Water cutting isn't to pricey either, my SS manifold flange was only 80bux to cut and was super smooth, no cleanup needed.
dc2696 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2010, 02:53 AM   #136
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Eastside Muff~Palmdale,CA
Posts: 93
Total Cats: 0
Thumbs up

Quote:
Originally Posted by dc2696 View Post
Water cutting isn't to pricey either, my SS manifold flange was only 80bux to cut and was super smooth, no cleanup needed.
I know of someone who does waterjetting.I was actually heading over there to see about an exhaust flange,so I can ask tommorow for a price for the intake also.
Eadohcturbo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2010, 04:02 AM   #137
Elite Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Tigard, Oregon
Posts: 3,908
Total Cats: 0
Default

Get the price for maybe 10 in aluminum!
cueball1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2010, 11:37 PM   #138
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Eastside Muff~Palmdale,CA
Posts: 93
Total Cats: 0
Default

^didn't get a chance to price..was unaware they close at 4:30pm ?? so i'll try tommorow.
If you have just a flange - what about the injector bosses and fuel rail mounting?
Eadohcturbo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2010, 12:05 AM   #139
Senior Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Murfreesboro,TN
Posts: 1,169
Total Cats: 29
Default

Another plus I thought of with the water jetting is that it'll be as true as the material itself. The laser may deform the material some as it is cutting. I would probably still be wise to plane the flange once it is welded on either way.
Midtenn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2010, 11:43 AM   #140
Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
dc2696's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Edmonton Ab, Canada
Posts: 1,152
Total Cats: 9
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eadohcturbo View Post
^didn't get a chance to price..was unaware they close at 4:30pm ?? so i'll try tommorow.
If you have just a flange - what about the injector bosses and fuel rail mounting?
Another advantage for the 1.8, our mounting gear is on the head.

You 1.6 guys will have to cut your oem intakes far enough back to include that jazz like Braineack did whefn he built his manifold.
dc2696 is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Project Gemini - Turbo Civic on the Cheap Full_Tilt_Boogie Build Threads 53 12-07-2016 05:52 PM
Expected intake temps on the track? tazswing Race Prep 20 10-03-2015 12:04 PM
Moroso Air Oil Separator Catch Can Aroundcorner Miata parts for sale/trade 2 10-01-2015 04:20 PM
ISO 1.6 turbo cast iron manifold cale saurage DIY Turbo Discussion 16 10-01-2015 12:25 PM


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:47 AM.