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**UrbanSoot** · 12-02-2008, 02:01 PM

Which one would you recommend for 1.6L with target of > 340whp? Criterias to consider:
- Reliability
- Support for large (>= 750cc) low-z injectors
- Ease of installation
- Ease of tuning
- Cost
- Additional features (flat shift, traction control, WI control, etc)

**UrbanSoot** · 12-02-2008, 02:22 PM

im personally trying to decide whether to dump $1600 into AEM, $1k into Haltech, or $400 into MS2. Problem with MS2 is lack of REAL support...

**Rafa** · 12-02-2008, 02:25 PM

If you're not very familiar with tuning, I'd go with a Hydra for a Miata. I think you'll get much better support; especially if you buy it from FM.

On the other hand, I'm quite pleased with the AEM so far myself but I have to rely on my tuner to use any of its features.

**UrbanSoot** · 12-02-2008, 02:31 PM

im not going to tune it myself. a client of mine is doing tuning for me (DC Performance: Proven Performance)

**240_to_miata_OWNER** · 12-02-2008, 02:31 PM

- Reliability
- Support for large (>= 750cc) low-z injectors
- Ease of installation
- Ease of tuning
- Cost
- Additional features (flat shift, traction control, WI control, etc)

looks like you can get all of these from a properly set up megasquirt. PNP would be a great choice for you

**Marc@M-Tuned.com** · 12-02-2008, 02:31 PM

MOTEC is 100% the best on that list, but something most here will never play with. I'd love to have a MOTEC unit on my Miata, but I don't want to spend the $$$$

**UrbanSoot** · 12-02-2008, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 240_to_miata_OWNER

looks like you can get all of these from a properly set up megasquirt. PNP would be a great choice for you

mspnp does not have support for low-z injectors.

**240_to_miata_OWNER** · 12-02-2008, 03:02 PM

yea i wasnt sure about that. you can easily put resistors in or do a DIY megasquirt setup.

**UrbanSoot** · 12-02-2008, 03:07 PM

i would NEVER put a resistor box on low-z injectors. it kills the purpose! also... having spent WELL over $20k on this car so far... whats another $1500?

oconnor · 12-02-2008, 03:40 PM

Motec for sure. I have Mspnp now...

**kotomile** · 12-02-2008, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UrbanSoot

mspnp does not have support for low-z injectors.

I thought that was only true for those of us running the hi-res firmware?

**patsmx5** · 12-02-2008, 04:04 PM

Find someone to build you a custom MS2E setup w/ the injector driver board. And get a custom made 36-1 trigger wheel setup for ignition input. Then you'd have a badass setup. But it's finding someone that will make it for you that will be hard. But it would be cheaper.

BenR · 12-02-2008, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kotomile

I thought that was only true for those of us running the hi-res firmware?

That is my understanding as well.

fmowry · 12-02-2008, 04:19 PM

My Motec didn't do much more than any of the other choices. Then again it was the M4 that has been replaced with the M400 I think.

For support, you'll probably be the best with the AEM or Hydra.

Frank

**UrbanSoot** · 12-02-2008, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kotomile

I thought that was only true for those of us running the hi-res firmware?

yeah... but then again... would you want to run low resolution code on $20k+ car pushing way north of 300whp?

i would LOVE to run ms2 but i just cant find anyone who would build me a setup! i mean... id love to dump $600 on it if someone would make me one that i could just plug in, set timing, dwell, and tune my idle. from there i would have my tuner do the rest.

**kotomile** · 12-02-2008, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UrbanSoot

yeah... but then again... would you want to run low resolution code on $20k+ car pushing way north of 300whp?

Point taken. I don't really understand what the disadvantage is of high-Z injectors so until I'm enlightened incompatibility with low-Zs seems a moot point.

**240_to_miata_OWNER** · 12-02-2008, 11:53 PM

well if you have the money to do better than absolutely cross megasquirt off that list

motec!

**UrbanSoot** · 12-03-2008, 01:50 AM

i have about $1500 to dump on proper engine management. less is better obviously.

modernbeat · 12-03-2008, 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UrbanSoot

i have about $1500 to dump on proper engine management. less is better obviously.

I'd recommend a Haltech E8. If you can't find a cheap one in the states, ebay Australia usually has a couple dealers selling them cheap - and remember that the Aussie dollars are worth much less than the US dollars.

If you are very budget minded, skip the wiring harness and build one yourself.

**Rafa** · 12-03-2008, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fmowry

My Motec didn't do much more than any of the other choices. Then again it was the M4 that has been replaced with the M400 I think.

For support, you'll probably be the best with the AEM or Hydra.

Frank

I'm not too happy with the AEM support but then again; I live overseas.

View Poll Results: Which ECU?
AEM	8	18.18%
Hydra	7	15.91%
MegaSquirt	19	43.18%
Haltech	1	2.27%
Motec	6	13.64%
Link	3	6.82%
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