Miata towing... '99 Frontier
#1
Miotta FTW!
Thread Starter
iTrader: (24)
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Chicagoland, IL
Posts: 4,290
Total Cats: 31
Miata towing... '99 Frontier
So... a local small pickup truck deal popped up and it has me thinking of ditching the tire trailer miata format.
1999 Nissan Frontier extended cab
Ka24de (4cyl)
3500lb Tow rating
for $2500.... possibly lower pending seeing it and negotiation.
I see it as the around town beater, carry anything and rarely take the car to track events with a tow dolly. Mainly Midwest area so it is flat towing... (I only do a few a year anymore).
Actual truck:
stock pics:
What say you all?
1999 Nissan Frontier extended cab
Ka24de (4cyl)
3500lb Tow rating
for $2500.... possibly lower pending seeing it and negotiation.
I see it as the around town beater, carry anything and rarely take the car to track events with a tow dolly. Mainly Midwest area so it is flat towing... (I only do a few a year anymore).
Actual truck:
stock pics:
What say you all?
#3
Miotta FTW!
Thread Starter
iTrader: (24)
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Chicagoland, IL
Posts: 4,290
Total Cats: 31
I have the wifes 2010 mazda3... but its her car and so new... tossing much stuff in the back sucks.
And... I'd rather a smaller truck for better around town mileage and just plain smaller profile. Not to mention cheaper to own and maintain.
If all that makes sense.
#4
Supporting Vendor
iTrader: (33)
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: atlanta-ish
Posts: 12,659
Total Cats: 134
That's really not a lot of truck if you'll be pulling a car behind it. That's a good truck for a landscaper, not so much for a car hauler. Keep in mind that the trailer itself will be 1600 lbs at minimum, if you're lucky enough to find one that light inexpensively (or if you want to shell out big $$ for a new aluminum trailer). A realistic expectation for a reasonably priced trailer is 2200 lbs. Put a car on that, and your GVWR is more than shot. Pulling heavy loads with an undersized truck is not very fun. Or safe.
#5
Miotta FTW!
Thread Starter
iTrader: (24)
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Chicagoland, IL
Posts: 4,290
Total Cats: 31
That's really not a lot of truck if you'll be pulling a car behind it. That's a good truck for a landscaper, not so much for a car hauler. Keep in mind that the trailer itself will be 1600 lbs at minimum, if you're lucky enough to find one that light inexpensively (or if you want to shell out big $$ for a new aluminum trailer). A realistic expectation for a reasonably priced trailer is 2200 lbs. Put a car on that, and your GVWR is more than shot. Pulling heavy loads with an undersized truck is not very fun. Or safe.
I would also be mainly going max 2-300 miles each way with the car behind me. So it would be a very rare miata tow vehicle... that would kind of be a side perk almost I think.
I do understand keeping it safe though. I have no issues with it taking time to get up to speed and I ALWAYS am looking ahead and braking ahead of time for anything.... even in the miata. I do find this more of a compromise vehicle.... but I'm not a big truck guy.... and they cost ALOT more and take up alot more space. Not a fan of loosing even more space to a bigger truck.
#10
I have a Nissan hardbody with the single cam. I've thought about putting a turbo and brake upgrade on it when the time comes to tow the Miata. It's not worth it.
Pusha tows his car with this same Ford truck. http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/1743088984.html
Pusha tows his car with this same Ford truck. http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/1743088984.html
#11
Former Vendor
iTrader: (31)
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Sunnyvale, CA
Posts: 15,442
Total Cats: 2,099
I do understand keeping it safe though. I have no issues with it taking time to get up to speed and I ALWAYS am looking ahead and braking ahead of time for anything.... even in the miata. I do find this more of a compromise vehicle.... but I'm not a big truck guy.... and they cost ALOT more and take up alot more space. Not a fan of loosing even more space to a bigger truck.
If you're considering an occasional tow rig, look at late 90s (96+) Silverado 1500s. Still reasonable to maintain, not ridiculously huge, and enough truck to be comfortable in shitty conditions on shitty roads with the Miata behind you.
#12
I tow a 12" open trailer with trailer brakes with my Sequoia. It's got the 2uz V8, I picked my up cheap with 120k miles. The timing belt kits are on ebay for $170. My cousin works for Toyota and said to just change the timing belt and fresh trans fluid every 20k if your towing a lot. You can get a 2001 for around 6k if you look around. Sleeps 2 at the track.
Jake
Jake
#13
That frontier will work fine IMO- it'll just be slow. Your biggest concern be stopping.
I think you should find a single axle trailer with brakes like above. I've towed miatas many times on a single axle with an RX300 and Jeep Grand Cherokee. The key is to get the tongue proper and then mark the trailer so the car is setup the same every time. I've also had 18' open and 28' enclosed trailers, and IMO the single axle is fine for your needs. That said, I know of three guys running SM that pull double axles with their wives' Honda Odysseys. And another one towing with a four cylinder Rodeo, and another with an extended cab Ford Ranger 4.0 v6...
I think you should find a single axle trailer with brakes like above. I've towed miatas many times on a single axle with an RX300 and Jeep Grand Cherokee. The key is to get the tongue proper and then mark the trailer so the car is setup the same every time. I've also had 18' open and 28' enclosed trailers, and IMO the single axle is fine for your needs. That said, I know of three guys running SM that pull double axles with their wives' Honda Odysseys. And another one towing with a four cylinder Rodeo, and another with an extended cab Ford Ranger 4.0 v6...
#14
That 4 Cyl frontier WILL DO A **** POOR JOB OF PULLING>.. don't even contemplate climbing a hill. or maintaing 60 mph.
I have, currently own 2000 frontier,4wd, 5 speed, with the 3.4 V6. Now i thought one exrta liter would help, but notgreat. I wish i knew the v6 was soo weak. The brakes are slow to grip too. Rear drums dont help..
I mostly tow my classic mini to places, which for a 1500 lb car, on a dolley my truck can maintain. NOT 70 mph on the interstate. not up hills with speed either. Better get in the slow flasher lane when climbing a mtn.
I have dolleyed a few miatas around town too , and WHEW, that thing works hard. I would like a better puller, but that means these days a larger or more expensive truck. I don't want larger, i don't want more expensive.
My dad always had the great s -10 chevy with the 4.3 v6 which for a small truck would love to pull all day long. Small trucks, there is no comparison here.
Note that the only people that use these little 4 cyl frontiers are for painters and run arounds. no towing, no ladder trucks etc.
Im finding now that after 10 years. im now fighting a few little knickknacks on my truck too. Clutch hyudroilics, plastic parts, etc.
Just my thoughts.. and what i have experienced
goodluck.
I have, currently own 2000 frontier,4wd, 5 speed, with the 3.4 V6. Now i thought one exrta liter would help, but notgreat. I wish i knew the v6 was soo weak. The brakes are slow to grip too. Rear drums dont help..
I mostly tow my classic mini to places, which for a 1500 lb car, on a dolley my truck can maintain. NOT 70 mph on the interstate. not up hills with speed either. Better get in the slow flasher lane when climbing a mtn.
I have dolleyed a few miatas around town too , and WHEW, that thing works hard. I would like a better puller, but that means these days a larger or more expensive truck. I don't want larger, i don't want more expensive.
My dad always had the great s -10 chevy with the 4.3 v6 which for a small truck would love to pull all day long. Small trucks, there is no comparison here.
Note that the only people that use these little 4 cyl frontiers are for painters and run arounds. no towing, no ladder trucks etc.
Im finding now that after 10 years. im now fighting a few little knickknacks on my truck too. Clutch hyudroilics, plastic parts, etc.
Just my thoughts.. and what i have experienced
goodluck.
#15
Your far better off with a tandem axle trailer with brakes on each. The truck WILL work, but you will be stressing it. Being on flat road helps. I'd also get an oil temp and trans temp gauge to make sure your not stressing it too much. The length of the truck will be to your advantage while towing.
If your not set on the truck, another option to look at is the XJ cherokee/ ZJ grand cherokee line up. The XJ is about as bare bones as the Miata, and is about the same to work on/maintain.
If your not set on the truck, another option to look at is the XJ cherokee/ ZJ grand cherokee line up. The XJ is about as bare bones as the Miata, and is about the same to work on/maintain.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post