Marc D

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are these calipers the only ones that would work? im sure there are other models that might fit as well?

EDIT: ah nevermind. i just noticed they are the correct sizes for the corrado rotors. if we used different rotors, im sure we can fit a different caliper, but that defeats the purpose of having bigger brakes if we go with something smaller.

TonyV

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Are we talking using the Wilwoods for all 4 corners?

If so, what about using the Wilwood/Coronado combo up front, and using the 1.8's in rear? Throw off the braking balance? Or good way to skim some money?

cueball1

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Brain,

Me thinks though dost misunderstood. I am not advocating track pads for the street. I am saying use track pads for the track. Use street pads on the street. For the vast majority of people I THINK big brakes aren't going to be an advantage. Big brakes are big for a larger swept area for more bite and more surface area to dissipate heat.

I thought this was a general discussion about big brakes in addition to a how to. I used the spec miata example to demonstrate that our stock rotors and calipers provide plenty of clamping power and great fade resistence even in extreme use. I'm not a believer in big brakes, particularly only doing the fronts. Brake balance is too important in a panic situation and often ignored by street tuners. Stopping in a straight line is one thing. Stopping and turning with a poorly balanced system is another.

I'm likely completely wrong on the issue! I know that. I'm not an expert and certainly don't pretend to be. I simply haven't seen real world testing proving the benefits of big brakes on our cars. Also I'm a cheap bastard that doesn't want to spend hard earned money unless it's a proven benefit.

Miatamaniac92

Almost 6000 views, wow. Some people are really interested in a good DIY BBK.

The fixed calipers are also supposed to give you better brake feel as compared to our floating design.

Chris

silentbob343

I think 11" fronts and Sport/01+ rears would provide good balance. You could always get an adjustable bias valve to fine tune to yuor liking. Wiliwood sells them as well.
http://www.pitstopusa.com/SearchResu...ategoryID=4478

These calipers are used in many of the BBK kits and the pads offer greater surface area than the other wilwood caliper posted in this thread.
I've often heard fixed calipers are harder on wheel bearings.

Marc D

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ah HA! thats it! not to mention 25 dollars cheaper! thanks

silentbob343

No problem.

A lot of this stuff was discussed in the Miata.net thread I linked to earlier. They even calculated some of the braking forces with diffferent master cylinder and piston combos as Wilwood offers several piston diameters and many people move up to a larger MC.

Actually made an excel spread sheet so you can plug in numbers;
http://home.comcast.net/~silentbob343/Brake%20Calcs.zip

These results will vary slightly from the numbers found in the miata.net thread as I found some small errors in the calcs and fixed them.

Braineack

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Every single person that's driven my miata with my 1.8L brake upgrade comments on my brakes being far superior. Every time I drive a 1.6L miata, even with the same pad, I comment on how shitty the brakes are.

Ben

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1.8 brakes are far superior. More clamping and more leverage.

Matt [exz3owner]

not to change the subject, but can someone discribe the brakes in the OP? Moti's brakes didn't look much different that the old FM kit. If they are a big, unique, wilwoods, they are likely the brakes off my car that was stolen about 2 years ago. Anyone have info on who the person who put the ad up was?

cueball1

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OK! I'm an ***. Wasn't thinking about you 1.6 folks.

spike

Did you try asking the person(Moti)who purchased the brakes? He would have a better idea who the person is.

Matt [exz3owner]

oh. didn't realise Moti was selling them. Moti got his brakes from the same guy I did, but Moti isn't dealing in stolen parts...

Mach929

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+1 i think there's a lot of old school miata.net wine and cheese wisdom playing in on the generally accepted "1.6 brakes are all you need". my swap to 1.8 was night and day in terms of overall clamping for and in modulation. the only thing i'm worried about is that the stiffer the suspension the more you can use your rear brakes i wouldn't want to go to overboard on the front without using more of the capacity of the rears

UrbanSoot

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so, who wants to make me some caliper brackets for those wilwood calipers and 01+ sport rotors? id go with calipers off 01+ sport but im kind of skeptical about dumping $300+ on USED calipers. id rather pay for new ones.

spike

That kit already exists,it's made by Chikara motorsports,they also sell just the caliper brackets.

www.chikaramotorsports.com

UrbanSoot

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never mind guys, i just bought all 4 calipers and brackets off 01+ sport for $180 shipped! :-P

Oscar

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they list them at around $3 per bracket?
that's dirt cheap

spike

^ I'm pretty sure it's typo.

M-Tuned

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Here is a thread to our Big Brake Kit using the Corrado rotors..

https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/t28696/#post335453