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Old 05-22-2008, 04:27 AM
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Default Oil leak. um this sucks

Iv been ignoring the fact that i have to change my cam seals. Its never been so bad where i have to add oil till today when i notice the dipstick didn't read full. I wonder what it takes to change the seals?

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Removing the timing belt and cam gears.
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Originally Posted by mike_671
I wonder what it takes to change the seals?
like 30 minutes of your time...
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Originally Posted by Braineack
like 30 minutes of your time...
You mean more like couple of hours. Change the water pump, while your at it.
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Originally Posted by supra441979
You mean more like couple of hours. Change the water pump, while your at it.
I changed my water pump all ready, even my timing belt. Thats when i saw that me seals were leaking .
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Originally Posted by Braineack
like 30 minutes of your time...
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You removed your timing belt, noticed the cam seals were leaking, didn't change them at the time, reinstalled the timing belt AND a new water pump, THEN posted here asking about what it takes to change the seals...in that order?

Well, the cam seals themselves aren't that hard to replace. You'll probably have to cut some of the plastic away and that takes a bit of effort to do without scoring the cams. Once they are out, you'll need to seat the new seals securely. Most people will use a pipe with the appropriate diameter, covered with tape, to press the seals into place.
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30 minutes? I wouldn't try to go that fast on cam seals, that's pretty much rushing through the job. Better to take your time bro.

I used a socket to push my cam seals in, they were easy. It was the mother ****** crank seal that gave me hell. Scuffed it just a little, but enough to make it leak when I put everything back together. Did it again a day or two later and had to polish out the scuff.

You should have done the cam seals when you did the waterpump and timing belt man. In that case it would have been like 15 mins extra of your time!

P.S. Do yourself a favor and get a seal puller! Don't **** around with screwdrivers or picks.

Goodluck!

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Originally Posted by mike_671
remove the valve cover, mark the TB, remove the plastic cover, remove the gears, pull the seals....

replace seals, replace gears, replace belt in relation to marks, replace plastic cover, replace valve cover. presto.
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^Yah, but you can yank the tranny in 44minutes. It takes me 44minutes just to jack the car up.
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Originally Posted by Vashthestampede

P.S. Do yourself a favor and get a seal puller! Don't **** around with screwdrivers or picks.


+1

Get a good one from sears too. Don't bother with a mickey mouse bullshit one from HF.
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P.S. Do yourself a favor and get a seal puller! Don't **** around with screwdrivers or picks.
Yup yup.

The cam seals aren't that tough, really. It took me probably 15 minutes total for each seal with a pair of needle nose pliers and a razor blade. The crank seal, though, was a true beeotch. After 2 hours over two days, I finally gave up and had my car towed to a shop. The guy whipped out a seal puller and had the old seal out in under a minute. I'd like to think that it was all my work that made his job easier, but no.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
remove the valve cover, mark the TB, remove the plastic cover, remove the gears, pull the seals....

replace seals, replace gears, replace belt in relation to marks, replace plastic cover, replace valve cover. presto.
This you do without removing the accessory belts and crank and WP pulleys?
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I think it took me an hour start to finish last time... that includes the time to drain the coolant and refill/burp the coolant afterwards. After you pull the timing belt 4-5 times it get's pretty damned easy.
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Alternator belt and Power Steering/AC belt also need to be remove as well.
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try getting a bolt to put on the front of the engine right to the driver's side of the crank pulley, that's where my oil leak was:

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we are talking cam seals here right?!!
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