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Old 08-20-2007, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by badboy88000
they chunk. really bad.

i know, ive been using them for 2 years, every drift event i went to.
uhh... i really find this type of info NOT helpful. drifting is going to thrash tires no matter how good they are. it's physics.

that said: 512s are OOP. they've been replaced with Falken 912s which I have in the 15s. I got 'em for $200 MOUNTED and they are just great for the money. they are superior to the 512s which were previously on the car. they don't hold like the azenis nor even my Avon MT500 nor the KDWs, but gdamn, $200 mounted, i don't give a rats ***.

I hope to get 20K mi out of 'em as we're putting on about 2500/month on the Miata right now...
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Old 08-20-2007, 03:33 PM
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Frank, are the M edition light? I'm looking for light weight rims. Also, i plan to drive the car year round... until the snow comes than it's going in the garage.
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They're 14.5 lbs. Not superlight. Not too bad though. The ones you have are probably 18 lbers.

NB 15 inchers are pretty light at 13.1 lbs if you can find some locally.

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Old 09-21-2007, 11:48 PM
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g-force work pretty well and it is cheap..
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Old 09-21-2007, 11:56 PM
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azenis azenis azenis azenis.... I love them.
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This is a pretty old thread to bring back Aves, but i gotta hand it to you that I cant remember any other noob actually following the newb posting rules. I still expect that you will get **** from certain members, just ignore.


Aves, sry lol i must have been buzzin and misread the date or just felt like stirrin **** up or whatever. Disregard the above post

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Originally Posted by JasonC SBB
The Kumho SPT are much longer lasting than Azenis / RS2 class tires. They are in the ES100 class of grip, but are much quieter and smoother, and with much better wet grip, and seem to last longer. They also seem to hold up pretty well to autox abuse even at full tread.

They are much better than Direzzas too, IMO.

Re: rims - buy used!!! That way you can buy fairly light rims like Oz Superleggeras, or Rota Circuit 8's, Slipstreams, or their other lightweight model.
ES100 are no where near a performance tire. If you want something to last a while on the street, but performance does not go anywhere near that tire. I know as I am on my 2nd pair on my street wheels.
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Old 09-22-2007, 01:13 PM
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this is a old threadf? dident even notice.
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Old 09-22-2007, 02:03 PM
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it's okay im still looking for tires/wheel combo.
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Old 09-22-2007, 03:51 PM
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I got Falken Ziex 512's with my Konig Rewinds and re-shoed my WRX with Falken Ziex 329's last year. I wanted something with damp weather grip since it actually does rain occassionally in the desert and places where I drive. They've been kind to both my wallet and my cars. Decent ride, not too harsh, and fairly quiet... not like I could tell with the Miata though.

If I was going to get new wheels, I'd be opting for one of these.

Drag DR20

Rota RB which I couldn't find when I was buying my Rewinds.

and not forgetting...

hub rings...
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Old 09-22-2007, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyC
uhh... i really find this type of info NOT helpful. drifting is going to thrash tires no matter how good they are. it's physics.


That's a shame. Drifting is extremely useful to me in determining how well a tire is constructed, and how well the compound can stand up to the heat of prolonged track abuse. Sure every tire will wear much faster, some are able to wear smoothly all the way down the cords and maintain consistent grip, some start chunking and fall apart almost at full tread depth, others cannot take the heat and delaminate.
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Old 09-22-2007, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by cjernigan
Azeni 615s are pretty damn cheap for a pretty *** kickin tire that will work for street/autocross/ and cold tracking.
+1 finally got a set a few days ago, man these things look like fat sport bike tires (been running Toyo T1S and T1R for years, I've also heard good things about that hancok tire though I havn't used them)
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Old 09-22-2007, 08:17 PM
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I love the Azenis but they are $260 per tyre in Australia for 205/50/15, so they get expensive!
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Old 09-23-2007, 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by saboteur
I love the Azenis but they are $260 per tyre in Australia for 205/50/15, so they get expensive!

Mine were $77 a tire
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Originally Posted by BenR
That's a shame. Drifting is extremely useful to me in determining how well a tire is constructed, and how well the compound can stand up to the heat of prolonged track abuse. Sure every tire will wear much faster, some are able to wear smoothly all the way down the cords and maintain consistent grip, some start chunking and fall apart almost at full tread depth, others cannot take the heat and delaminate.
well said.

sorry, i forgot to mention, i never used them on the rears. they were on the fronts. that says a lot about them already. the sidewalls are crap, but they hold very well IF you stretch them. if you dont stretch them, they flex bad. but hell, they are pretty cheap.

If i used them on the rears, they wouldnt last me more than half a track event.
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Old 09-23-2007, 12:43 PM
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yeah still undecided as i odnt even have new rims yet... thinking heliums (my annoiversy present haha))
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Originally Posted by Dow.tom
yeah still undecided as i odnt even have new rims yet... thinking heliums (my annoiversy present haha))
if you're not going to run a 225, then run stock 15" NB wheels with 205's.

add a little rustoleum:


They weigh 13.1lb, they're strong, the look good, and you should pay $200-250 for a set. You can get kazera kz-m for $400, and they weigh 13.5lb.

If you want something other than light wheels, you're asking the wrong forum.
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Old 09-30-2007, 01:47 PM
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i plan to get the KZ-m's What kind of rubber can i run?
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Old 10-01-2007, 08:43 PM
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Falken Ze Ziex-512s

I think I got mine for 60 bucks a tire and they are H-rated.
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Old 10-02-2007, 12:31 AM
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TOYO t1r's? 195/55/14 for 395 mounted and balanced. not even a 65mph shimmy.

AA traction, 280 tread rating. awesome in wet.

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