CHRA/turbine bolts relaxing.
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It is my lavender shirt, bolts are not discolored. The EDM guy said he did the submersed so they wouldn't harden.
It's in the car and off to the track next weekend. I won't know if this is a permenent fix until let say 6+ days or the end of the season.
It's in the car and off to the track next weekend. I won't know if this is a permenent fix until let say 6+ days or the end of the season.
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I was surprised by how brittle the old Inco wire was when it came off. I could break it by just pulling with needle-nose pliars.
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I've done 4 days on these Inco CHRA bolts and they are still tight, on the ones I can get to with a wrench, I make take the turbo out and check at home rather than run into an issue at the track. Two of those days are on a track that's only 4th-6th gears so I'm fairly convinced today. I have a 2-day coming up the 2nd weekend of June, then another TXMC the following weekend. After that, if everything holds together, I'll call it "fixed".
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The nimonic Tial bolts that were tried and failed and were not safety wired (#2 in the sequence of fail)... did they have the provision for safety wire? I'll give hustler enough credit to assume they were not drilled otherwise they would have been wired up, but the nimonic bolts I received from Tim last year are drilled. This pic shows what I have and as you can see, they are tall sons of bitches.
Their tallness is causing me clearance issues with the banjo fittings for the water lines, and hitting the oil drain flange. See post #26 in my bulid thread if you need illustrations. https://www.miataturbo.net/build-threads-57/scottfws-build-thread-47965/
Do you think there's a basic problem with the nimonic alloy, or do you think they'd hold up if safety wired? I have regular SS as well as inconel wire. I can make these bolts fit, but that will require either A) grinding stuff or B) $50-60 in new water line fittings, and I don't want to do either of those and then wind up destroying a turbine if the nimonic alloy is the underlying problem.
Those newer inconel Tial bolts that you have are much flatter and I think would be a good option for solving my clearance issues as well as having CHRA not fall off.
The nimonic Tial bolts that were tried and failed and were not safety wired (#2 in the sequence of fail)... did they have the provision for safety wire? I'll give hustler enough credit to assume they were not drilled otherwise they would have been wired up, but the nimonic bolts I received from Tim last year are drilled. This pic shows what I have and as you can see, they are tall sons of bitches.
Their tallness is causing me clearance issues with the banjo fittings for the water lines, and hitting the oil drain flange. See post #26 in my bulid thread if you need illustrations. https://www.miataturbo.net/build-threads-57/scottfws-build-thread-47965/
Do you think there's a basic problem with the nimonic alloy, or do you think they'd hold up if safety wired? I have regular SS as well as inconel wire. I can make these bolts fit, but that will require either A) grinding stuff or B) $50-60 in new water line fittings, and I don't want to do either of those and then wind up destroying a turbine if the nimonic alloy is the underlying problem.
Those newer inconel Tial bolts that you have are much flatter and I think would be a good option for solving my clearance issues as well as having CHRA not fall off.
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The bolts you have are the same metal as the newer flatter versions. Some Nickel alloy. I can give you the alloy percentages, I wasn't able to match it up but most inconels don't have their alloy contents published as it's proprietary.
I see your clearance issues. That must be why they went with the shorter bolts. They also stopped drilling for safety wire. I think I remember yours being drilled by tial. I drill .062 holes when I do it.
I see your clearance issues. That must be why they went with the shorter bolts. They also stopped drilling for safety wire. I think I remember yours being drilled by tial. I drill .062 holes when I do it.
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