Coolant Reroute - Turbo and heater, tell me I'm an idiot.
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Coolant Reroute - Turbo and heater, tell me I'm an idiot.
So, someone explain here why it's an idiotic idea to route the turbo coolant to the heater, and from there to behind the thermostat.
I *know* there's a reason it's stupid and no one does it, I just haven't managed to figure it out yet.
I *know* there's a reason it's stupid and no one does it, I just haven't managed to figure it out yet.
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Also if your turbo is higher than the heater outlets you end up with FAIL. search my threads...you'll findit
(Edit) If it's this thread - https://www.miataturbo.net/general-m...i-crazy-39802/ - then I'm failing to understand how our ideas are similar. MS paint illustration incoming!
(Edit 2) Illustration is below. My best guess is that the issue is that the heater restricts flow from the turbo as to why it would fail.
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Anyone?
Talked to an experienced mechanic yesterday, he was pretty confident it *should* work - which surprises the hell out of me, but still.
The only problem I can think of is that the heater may restrict too much flow from the turbo.
Talked to an experienced mechanic yesterday, he was pretty confident it *should* work - which surprises the hell out of me, but still.
The only problem I can think of is that the heater may restrict too much flow from the turbo.
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Well, one last update and attempt to be dissuaded before I try it.
My only concerns are twofold at this point.
Causing the heater to get so hot to cause a fire/something to melt/etc. However, there is a limit to how hot the water can get before it boils in a system, and if the water exiting the turbo doesn't hit this, I don't think I need to be particularly concerned.
The other concern is just if the heater restricts too much flow to properly cool the turbo, but considering water cooled turbos can only be ran with oil...I don't know if this should be a concern.
Last chance to talk me out of being a moron guys.
My only concerns are twofold at this point.
Causing the heater to get so hot to cause a fire/something to melt/etc. However, there is a limit to how hot the water can get before it boils in a system, and if the water exiting the turbo doesn't hit this, I don't think I need to be particularly concerned.
The other concern is just if the heater restricts too much flow to properly cool the turbo, but considering water cooled turbos can only be ran with oil...I don't know if this should be a concern.
Last chance to talk me out of being a moron guys.
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Well, one last update and attempt to be dissuaded before I try it.
My only concerns are twofold at this point.
Causing the heater to get so hot to cause a fire/something to melt/etc. However, there is a limit to how hot the water can get before it boils in a system, and if the water exiting the turbo doesn't hit this, I don't think I need to be particularly concerned.
The other concern is just if the heater restricts too much flow to properly cool the turbo, but considering water cooled turbos can only be ran with oil...I don't know if this should be a concern.
Last chance to talk me out of being a moron guys.
My only concerns are twofold at this point.
Causing the heater to get so hot to cause a fire/something to melt/etc. However, there is a limit to how hot the water can get before it boils in a system, and if the water exiting the turbo doesn't hit this, I don't think I need to be particularly concerned.
The other concern is just if the heater restricts too much flow to properly cool the turbo, but considering water cooled turbos can only be ran with oil...I don't know if this should be a concern.
Last chance to talk me out of being a moron guys.
are you suggesting that water goes FROM the mixing manifold, to the turbo, to the heater, to the back of the head or return plumbing of your re-route?
or are you suggesting it flows from a tee in the return hose on the re-route, to the heater, to the turbo, back into the mixing manifold?
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The wording of the question has me confused as to what he is planning to do as well. The "from"s and "to"s don't add up to the way the coolant moves in the system. Why not take the little line from the back of the thermostat, go to the turbo with it, then take the line coming from the turbo and go to the little inlet on the mixing manifold next to the A/C compressor?
BTW, the heater circuit requires more flow than the chra will easily allow. This flow keeps the coolant from stagnating at the back of the head so much.
BTW, the heater circuit requires more flow than the chra will easily allow. This flow keeps the coolant from stagnating at the back of the head so much.
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I'm either seriously confused, or we're talking about different things, or something even more fail, but:
are you suggesting that water goes FROM the mixing manifold, to the turbo, to the heater, to the back of the head or return plumbing of your re-route?
or are you suggesting it flows from a tee in the return hose on the re-route, to the heater, to the turbo, back into the mixing manifold?
are you suggesting that water goes FROM the mixing manifold, to the turbo, to the heater, to the back of the head or return plumbing of your re-route?
or are you suggesting it flows from a tee in the return hose on the re-route, to the heater, to the turbo, back into the mixing manifold?
The wording of the question has me confused as to what he is planning to do as well. The "from"s and "to"s don't add up to the way the coolant moves in the system. Why not take the little line from the back of the thermostat, go to the turbo with it, then take the line coming from the turbo and go to the little inlet on the mixing manifold next to the A/C compressor?
BTW, the heater circuit requires more flow than the chra will easily allow. This flow keeps the coolant from stagnating at the back of the head so much.
P.S. Please remember I have a full reroute already and it works great, I am just trying to figure out how to route the water with it to the heater.
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Back of head oil cooler outlet to heater, to behind thermostat/in front of pump.
And I'll probably just buy the FM oil cooler kit, I've been planning on an oil cooler anyways, so it works great.
Thanks again Six!
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So, anyone know the size of the oil cooler outlet in the back of the head?
Finding the right combo of words to search and/or google is really hard for some reason with this particular subject. :(
Finding the right combo of words to search and/or google is really hard for some reason with this particular subject. :(
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