Lex

I am in the process of assembling a built BP motor with all the goodies to handle big boost. However, for the main bolts, if I were to use ARP main studs, I'd have to drill the main bearing support plate because the studs interfere with it being longer than the OEM main bolts.

My question is, has anyone heard of the stock main cap bolts ever failing? Is it worth going through the trouble of putting in the main cap ARP studs?

My power goals for this new motor are ~350whp.

neogenesis2004

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They are not needed. A member on m.net is making over 500whp with the stock main bolts and caps on a 1.8. The main bolts don't really see alot of load. Also, with arp mains you have to get an align hone because of the high torque the bolts require.

lazzer408

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The mains see more load then the rods.

neogenesis2004

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could you explain that view please.

Lex

There is no question that the mains see load and it is difficult to tell exactly how much. However, if it isn't more than they can handle in the 350whp range daily, I am not concerned.

I am building this motor as a daily driver and I am not going to strive for anything more than the power I mentioned. I just want to ensure the mains are reliable because I know everything else in the motor is.

I personally have never heard of a main failure being around BPs for the last 3+ years.

lazzer408

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I was going to go with arp mains on my build and considered billet caps but I hear alot of people running big hp on the stock main caps so maybe I'll save the 100s and not buy the billets. I'd just hate to have a main failure. If you look at the end view of a crank, with a rod at 90deg, and picture the forces transfering thru the crankshaft you can see the fulcrum point being at the main bearing.

lazzer408

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It's a cad drawing (not to scale) but visualize the forces at work. The power stroke forces down at point A and, due to the rotational mass/potential of the crankshaft, you could say the force is "restrained" at point B. The only direction left for the force to travel is counterclockwise as indicated by the arrow C. The greater the load on the crankshaft the more forces transfer at point B. Like the cranks on a bicycle... All your pedal force is transfered at the bottom of the frame in the crank bearings. It's transfered to a chain but the point which the transfer takes place is the same.

I'm not a physics instructor or my explination would be more complete. =)
I gave it my best shot.

Lex

anyone have any more input on the subject of main failures?

Lex

bump?

lazzer408

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I'd like to hear about the oil pump failures as well. What are you going with for the pump? I keep hearing about these billet gears for it.

Lex

I'm going with a new OEM pump. I feel safe going with it and don't plan on spinning the engine too much past the stock redline.

lazzer408

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So it's the rpm that kills it?

Lex

RPM and acceleration probably. Perhaps even load on the crank.

lazzer408

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Well 400hp is alot of load. Maybe I should get those billet gears too. There expencive though.