Garrett Turbos...The end of a quality product
02-24-2010, 08:40 AM
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**** you i was sober and that post was empowered by blackberry. Doppeganger you are the master of the drunk post and you are probably drunk now which is why you thought i was drunk when i actually was sober not drunk.
And yes the chinish and mexicese are races--- that means people of the same genetic stock you cockswaddling assmaggot pusfaced fagtard.
And yes the chinish and mexicese are races--- that means people of the same genetic stock you cockswaddling assmaggot pusfaced fagtard.
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02-24-2010, 08:59 AM
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What's happening to Garrett it's happening to every other company that got popular by it's quality products back when they were a small company. Once a company gets the name out there, get popular and it becomes more corporate. All these business people start taking over the company without any knoledge of, for example turbos. They come up with ways to cut down cost and make more money and that's all they care about.
This happens to everything even a stupid little sub place like subway or mcdonalds, they were all little delis that had quality products and tasted good, now that they became popular they are garbage but why do people still go there when they could go to a little deli with way better quality? It's all in the marketing.
I'm sorry if this post makes no scense but my brain is fried and English is my second language.
BTW I'm from argentina and it pisses me off when I have to check the box that says Hispanic in any form or application or whatever, when Argentina is made of mostly Italians and Germans, but Americans check of caucasion when alot of them are Italian like me. Just saying
This happens to everything even a stupid little sub place like subway or mcdonalds, they were all little delis that had quality products and tasted good, now that they became popular they are garbage but why do people still go there when they could go to a little deli with way better quality? It's all in the marketing.
I'm sorry if this post makes no scense but my brain is fried and English is my second language.
BTW I'm from argentina and it pisses me off when I have to check the box that says Hispanic in any form or application or whatever, when Argentina is made of mostly Italians and Germans, but Americans check of caucasion when alot of them are Italian like me. Just saying
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02-24-2010, 09:31 AM
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Have any of you ever considered that maybe all the initial "quality" was a big waste of money? Who cares how thick my compressor housing is? OOH i have a quality 3 inch thick housing it is better than yours. The suits were probably like holy **** mr. garret was a dumbass and his exorbitant design is dumb and wastes my money. Am I really supposed to watch out for turbyines flying through the hood?
BTW miataspeed i'm sorry you have to check the dirty spicck box that is sad. The whiteness should be better.
BTW miataspeed i'm sorry you have to check the dirty spicck box that is sad. The whiteness should be better.
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02-24-2010, 09:45 AM
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The market will decide if the move out of USA will hurt them or not. If they produce a crap product, people wont buy it. If they produce a better or comparable product at a lower cost, then more power to them. Maybe if businesses in the US didn't have so many hurdles to operate, they would stay in the US. Businesses in CA have to pay 8.5% just to operate in that pathetic state, that comes right out of the pocket of the consumer. I bet other States/Gov'ts are happy to GIVE incentives for them to operate in their country. And since production is cheaper elsewhere that's even better for them.
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02-24-2010, 06:12 PM
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Since 90% of the consumer electronics seem to come from China now why is it so hard for them to produce decent car parts and furniture? Truly it isn't. They will build to the quality specified by the "manufacturer". If you want cheap crap that's what they'll build. You want a precision part of high quality materials? Pay for it and they will build it. It's the crappy specs to keep the cost down that makes the chinese parts built for US vendors that makes it junk.
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02-24-2010, 06:19 PM
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^ True. IF they are in fact doing what the guy from NASIOC says they are doing, we will see if they are gong to get the same quality for cheaper, or lower qualtiy for much much cheaper. Going by that (still unconfirmed) post, they are already cutting corners in a big way at their current production facility.
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02-24-2010, 07:08 PM
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Bosch Mahle, Borg Warner, Mitsubishi, Peirburg, Komatsu & Holset are all possible companies to step up for the aftermarket consumer turbo market. I'm sure there are many others too. Seems to be Germany or Japan for quality options. They just haven't marketed to the aftermarket the way Garrett has. Lets hope one of them steps up if Garrett really is losing quality and innovation.
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02-24-2010, 07:37 PM
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Bosch Mahle, Borg Warner, Mitsubishi, Peirburg, Komatsu & Holset are all possible companies to step up for the aftermarket consumer turbo market. I'm sure there are many others too. Seems to be Germany or Japan for quality options. They just haven't marketed to the aftermarket the way Garrett has. Lets hope one of them steps up if Garrett really is losing quality and innovation.
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