General Miata Chat A place to talk about anything Miata

Why do my RX7 injectors not fit?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-12-2010, 09:07 PM
  #1  
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (13)
 
falcon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,499
Total Cats: 16
Default Why do my RX7 injectors not fit?

I am in the middle of installing my link ecu. I got to the point where I wanted to put my new 460cc rx7 injectors in, only to realize the clips are completely different?

I thought these were supposed to be "plug and play"...

not so much.

The injectors are
195500-1350

And my car has stock blue injectors with more of a "round" clip... whereas the RX7 injectors are square.

Are they even going to work? I just spent $100 on getting them cleaned. If I got the correct harness clips, would they work?
falcon is offline  
Old 04-12-2010, 09:12 PM
  #2  
:(
iTrader: (7)
 
magnamx-5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: nowhere
Posts: 8,255
Total Cats: 4
Default

um throw a multi meter on there and measure the ohms across the 2 polls if they are 10 or more ohms resistance they will work just fine with the proper clips. if they are low impedance ie 1-4 ohms resistance then they are low impedance and they can work with the link however it will require some mods. dude the info is on your test results for the cleaning of the injectors fyi lol.
magnamx-5 is offline  
Old 04-12-2010, 09:14 PM
  #3  
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (13)
 
falcon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,499
Total Cats: 16
Default

They are red. So therefore low imp.

I'll go grab a multimeter and check.

What harness clips will work? What resistor do I need if they are infact low imp?
falcon is offline  
Old 04-12-2010, 09:17 PM
  #4  
:(
iTrader: (7)
 
magnamx-5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: nowhere
Posts: 8,255
Total Cats: 4
Default

umm
both the high and low impedance ones are red dude


yes if they are low you need to do the resistor mod among other things the low impedance injectors are more stable at low dutycycles but being only 460's that isnt realy much of an issue for you.
magnamx-5 is offline  
Old 04-12-2010, 09:18 PM
  #5  
Elite Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Jeff_Ciesielski's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 1,770
Total Cats: 31
Default

You need Bosch EV-1 connectors.
Jeff_Ciesielski is offline  
Old 04-12-2010, 09:21 PM
  #6  
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (13)
 
falcon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,499
Total Cats: 16
Default

They look like the top injector. I cant find my multimeter right now... I think I lent it to someone...

My injectors dont have the little offset thing on the bottom of the clip that the lower picture does.

I'll see if I can find some Bosch EV1 connectors right now.
falcon is offline  
Old 04-12-2010, 09:22 PM
  #7  
Elite Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Jeff_Ciesielski's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 1,770
Total Cats: 31
Default

Diyautotune carries the connectors for a reasonable price IIRC
Jeff_Ciesielski is offline  
Old 04-12-2010, 09:23 PM
  #8  
:(
iTrader: (7)
 
magnamx-5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: nowhere
Posts: 8,255
Total Cats: 4
Default

find the data sheet from when you got the injectors cleaned the info you need will be on there man. Those are both the exact same injector man the only diff is internal.
magnamx-5 is offline  
Old 04-12-2010, 09:23 PM
  #9  
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (13)
 
falcon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,499
Total Cats: 16
Default

Originally Posted by magnamx-5
dude the info is on your test results for the cleaning of the injectors fyi lol.
oh... and it was a cash deal so I didn't get any paperwork... lol
falcon is offline  
Old 04-12-2010, 09:27 PM
  #10  
:(
iTrader: (7)
 
magnamx-5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: nowhere
Posts: 8,255
Total Cats: 4
Default

then call the dude he had to have done some testing to verify his results on spray pattern etc. Otherwise how do you know he didnt just hold your injectors for a day and give em back to you.
magnamx-5 is offline  
Old 04-12-2010, 10:53 PM
  #11  
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (13)
 
falcon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,499
Total Cats: 16
Default

It's not like that... I know he cleaned them. I get a **** load of injectors cleaned with this guy through my work. I know they were done.
falcon is offline  
Old 04-12-2010, 11:21 PM
  #12  
Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
therieldeal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Northeastern CT
Posts: 547
Total Cats: 2
Default

you sir have S4 injectors, the ones to have are from the S5.

you have to watch out with the S4's, some of them have a larger nozzle diameter which won't even fit into the BP head....
therieldeal is offline  
Old 04-13-2010, 12:06 AM
  #13  
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (13)
 
falcon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,499
Total Cats: 16
Default

They fit. I already had them in the rail and bolted down before I realized the clips were wrong...


Anyways the car runs now with the OEM injector NA setting... but it runs like ****. Enough to get me to/from work for a week or two until my turbo kit is installed and I can drive to my tuner.

I had to adjust the master fuel from 140 to 100 to get it to start. Thing was being a HUGE bitch.
falcon is offline  
Old 04-13-2010, 08:41 AM
  #14  
Elite Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Doppelgänger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 6,850
Total Cats: 71
Default

Originally Posted by therieldeal
you sir have S4 injectors, the ones to have are from the S5.

you have to watch out with the S4's, some of them have a larger nozzle diameter which won't even fit into the BP head....

This.

And to be more helpful, the years are

S4= 86-88
S5= 89-91.

You need the 89-91 non-turbo injectors. I used them in my 96 with no problem whatsoever. Plugged them up and tuned them with an Apex-i SAFC.
Doppelgänger is offline  
Old 04-14-2010, 12:14 PM
  #15  
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (13)
 
falcon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,499
Total Cats: 16
Default

So I tested them...


basically right at 13 ohms. one was 12.9 and another was 13.1

So this would make them high imp? So all I should need is the EV-1 clips and they should be PNP?
falcon is offline  
Old 04-14-2010, 12:17 PM
  #16  
Elite Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Jeff_Ciesielski's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 1,770
Total Cats: 31
Default

Originally Posted by falcon
So I tested them...


basically right at 13 ohms. one was 12.9 and another was 13.1

So this would make them high imp? So all I should need is the EV-1 clips and they should be PNP?
Yessir.
Jeff_Ciesielski is offline  
Old 04-14-2010, 12:18 PM
  #17  
Elite Member
iTrader: (51)
 
gospeed81's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Spring, TX
Posts: 7,257
Total Cats: 26
Default

Yes, they are high imp.

There is an ebay seller that sell those connectors cheap. They work well, I've used two sets. Search under my user name for a link, or just search ebay motors.
gospeed81 is offline  
Old 04-14-2010, 12:22 PM
  #18  
Elite Member
iTrader: (5)
 
m2cupcar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 7,486
Total Cats: 372
Default

Had the same issue with some TII rx7 injectors. NAPA actually had the pigtails for the connectors - <$3 each.
m2cupcar is offline  
Old 04-14-2010, 12:54 PM
  #19  
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (13)
 
falcon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,499
Total Cats: 16
Default

Excellent.

NAPA... we have those in Canada! I'll give it a try.
falcon is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Full_Tilt_Boogie
Build Threads
84
04-12-2021 04:21 PM
StratoBlue1109
Miata parts for sale/trade
21
09-30-2018 01:09 PM
90 Turbo
MEGAsquirt
19
10-19-2015 03:23 PM
Trent
WTB
2
10-01-2015 12:15 PM
The Gleas
MEGAsquirt
3
10-01-2015 09:30 AM



Quick Reply: Why do my RX7 injectors not fit?



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:49 PM.