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Old 03-01-2016, 10:39 AM
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Maybe. I love how the ND looks. Like seriously, in person, I was standing there and admiring it.
It looks 50x better in person than pics/videos IMHO>
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yup that's what it ate to gain 100lb
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That's funny. They claim 6.8 0-60 but a couple magazines clocked the ND at 5.9.
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that would actually make sense with a tiny turbo engine with no topend and all lowend/midrange torque you're really not gonna be quicker than a car with only like 15hp hp less and 100lb less weight.
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Sorry, I still like the Miata better, and the Fiat will still break down more.
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Based on what?
The 1.4 is a good engine and it's bolted to the ND 6 speed.
Everything else is the same as the Miata right?
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Originally Posted by Monk
Based on what?
The 1.4 is a good engine and it's bolted to the ND 6 speed.
Everything else is the same as the Miata right?
how reliable is the multiair 1.4t?

like long term results from abarth owners. I'm asking, cause I don't know
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FIAT will find a way.
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will Tony have to Fix It Again?
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I have the 1.4 N/A. Have had zero issues in 150k.
Buddy has an Abarth with 80k. Also no issues.

The only real issue I've had is with wheel bearings going bad every 60k.
One major advantage with fiat is you can get max care which warrantees your car until you die.
A tune might void that though.
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Originally Posted by Monk
and it's bolted to the ND 6 speed.
I'm not so sure it is..
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Originally Posted by Monk
Based on what?
The 1.4 is a good engine and it's bolted to the ND 6 speed.
Everything else is the same as the Miata right?
Did they lower the rev limiter? If so, then even with the same gearing you might need a 2-3 shift to hit 60.

0-60 is a stupid metric. It's far too dependent on the launch, and because it's based on speed rather than distance it gets thrown off by cars that require 2-3 shifts.

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Originally Posted by rleete
Sorry, I still like the Miata better, and the Fiat will still break down more.
Originally Posted by Monk
Based on what?
The 1.4 is a good engine and it's bolted to the ND 6 speed.
Everything else is the same as the Miata right?
Based on past history. I've worked on a couple of Fiats over the years, and I'll just say their reputation is well earned.

Then there's this: 2016 FIAT 500 Reliability | U.S. News Best Cars I think it's a pretty safe bet that this one won't be a hell of a lot different. Reliability is a lot more than just a good engine.
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Originally Posted by ThePass
I'm not so sure it is..
Correct. I meant to type NC. Sorry about that.

Originally Posted by rleete
Based on past history. I've worked on a couple of Fiats over the years, and I'll just say their reputation is well earned.

Then there's this: 2016 FIAT 500 Reliability | U.S. News Best Cars I think it's a pretty safe bet that this one won't be a hell of a lot different. Reliability is a lot more than just a good engine.
I realize that, and I have heard of strange gremlins in the 500s. I have not experienced them personally.
That said, if the 1.4 is good, the 6 speed is good, and everything else is shared between platforms, then reliability should be on par with Mazda.
I have heard some strange stories about the electronics in the 500L, so who knows.
Regardless, maxcare ensures that Tony will fix your car for free, and it would make the fiat a no brainier for me if I were buying new.
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Sorry for interrupting the conversation about de Fiata !!! But here it is some action from this weekend.

The black Peugeot 106 Rallye in front of me is driven by a Caterham Racing Driver. Good fun.


My Mx-5 is the 1.5
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Old 03-07-2016, 08:03 AM
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Filipe, that looks like great fun! That is a beautiful circuit. Formula 1?
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It looks like the Spanish GP circuit? Nice driving.
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