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Old 08-08-2016, 01:22 AM   #2741
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The 124 is hideous in comparison to the ND. Those overhangs are a mile long and the wheels look like bargain bid crap.
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Old 08-08-2016, 02:28 AM   #2742
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Tell us how you really feel.
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Old 08-08-2016, 08:52 AM   #2743
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Your mom's overhangs are a mile long...










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Old 08-08-2016, 10:35 AM   #2744
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Uh, Joe, pretty sure that's black.
Any "black" which is indistinguishable from whiskey-****-brow, even on a potatocam, is worse than brown.
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Old 08-08-2016, 11:17 AM   #2745
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some less Chryslery wheels.

You forget who owns the Fiat brand...

I mean it's basically a sebring convertible. Just wait for the 2+2 model to come out.

I mean look!


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Old 08-08-2016, 11:19 AM   #2746
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even the sebring has less awkward proportions.

..actually, it looks better than the fiatch
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Old 08-08-2016, 01:16 PM   #2747
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I didn't forget. Hence the reference.
Actually, I'm pretty sure it's the other way around.
I do wish the nose was about 6 inches shorter.
I am a failure for forgetting to take a picture of the engine bay.
I forgot that even the base models have a turbo.

P.S. if you think the Sebring looks better than the 124, you are even gayer than I'd hoped.


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Old 08-08-2016, 01:19 PM   #2748
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It's 2016 breh, most base model cars come turbo.

Most premium models are n/a. With double the cylinders

I'm dying to see one of these turds in person. Perhaps I will change my mind. So far, ND looks way better to me.
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Old 08-08-2016, 01:21 PM   #2749
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P.S. if you think the Sebring looks better than the 124, you are even gayer than I'd hoped.
look at the picture above.

tell me that overhang isn't the gayest thing you've seen in person, including your pink ******?
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Old 08-08-2016, 01:25 PM   #2750
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You're right. The overhang is gayer than my pink ******, but not the double enders.
It's my biggest gripe about the car, and I'm hoping either the next few years will have an updated nose or a decent aftermarket solution is made.
I still want one.

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Old 08-08-2016, 01:28 PM   #2751
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from this angle its actually ok




but clearly they suck at life if they didn't check to see how bad it looks otherwise

but we're talking about fiat here, and not the cool old fiat, the new chrystleriat............
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Old 08-08-2016, 01:58 PM   #2752
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The 124 is rather generic in attributes and proportion. They went back to the original 124 for character and styling cues and the original wasn't particularly good looking. The MX5 OTOH is a modern, aggressive clean sheet design. The MX5 design might not be your cup of tea but it is original and bold. The 124 is not, even if that appeals to you. To those that think the Fiata is better looking than the MX5, I feel sorry for you.
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The designers at Fiat took a car that looks purposeful and light on its toes with short overhangs and excellent proportions and somehow managed to make it look both nose and tail heavy, along with tasteless retro styling cues (the giant badge on the trunk looks like ****).
I tried to like it when I saw it the first time at the LA autoshow, stood in front of it for like 15 minutes, studying the lines... just couldn't do it.
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Old 08-08-2016, 04:17 PM   #2755
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The MX5 OTOH is a modern, aggressive clean sheet design.
There's nothing clean-sheet or original about the current-gen MX5. The styling looks like what would happen if a 3 went to the plastic surgeon and got some Joan Rivers-level facelift action. Same bone structure, just squintier and with all the surface features drawn too tightly.

The NA, by comparison, resembled nothing which had come before. It was all roundness and soft curves, in an era dominated by boxy angles.
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who cares. it's sexy (except the rear end at some specific angles), and doesn't look like an 05 ford thunderbird


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Old 08-08-2016, 06:23 PM   #2757
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does the shape of the front edge of the doors of the miata and the fiata match? You could re-nose one if you were so inclined for self-torture.
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Old 08-08-2016, 07:52 PM   #2758
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Personal taste is all for the ND, if I was drawing a car I wanted it would be far more ND than 124... but it's entertaining to see how some love one and hate the other. Can't we all just get along?



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Old 08-08-2016, 08:08 PM   #2759
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I'm not really fond of either (my tastes run much more to the NB and FD), but I would pick the ND over the Fiata.

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There's nothing clean-sheet or original about the current-gen MX5. The styling looks like what would happen if a 3 went to the plastic surgeon and got some Joan Rivers-level facelift action. Same bone structure, just squintier and with all the surface features drawn too tightly.

The NA, by comparison, resembled nothing which had come before. It was all roundness and soft curves, in an era dominated by boxy angles.
ND has many new shpaes not seen on any car that I know of. The prominent v shape crease of the front fenders is only mimicked by the C2 Corvette. The broad shoulders of the front fenders, maybe S2000 but the ND's are signficantly wider and more integrated. The rear qtrs sorta Z3 M but the BMW's looks grafted on while the ND, is once again integrated into the entire body line front to rear. The nose looks like no other car I can recall. The only car that shares it's rear character is the Jaguar which was released about a year before the ND, pure coincidence and not a borrowed feature.

The tightly drawn features, as you describe are what attract people to the ND. The design creates an fascinating balance between muscular tension like a E type Jag or Ferrari 458 and a flow that has a grace and overall coherence form every angle. If you are old and want a slab side wanna be retro convertible with no visual tension then yes, the Fiata is the bees knees.

The 124 is a sad attempt to recreate some of the pain, er magic of the original 124.
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