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Old 10-12-2016, 10:04 PM   #2981
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That's right, I forgot about those other features (it doesn't have rear parking sensors BTW unless you spec them for extra $$). I should know that stuff, I sell these things after all

The swivelly headlights are freaking sweet. However, they don't make as much of a difference on the Miata because you get LED's even without the swiveling.
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Old 10-12-2016, 10:28 PM   #2982
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I am super sad that the GT3 bar doesn't fit the hardtop either... Is it just the main hoop that hits? I am sure Moti can and will design a new version that can fit.
He did, it's called the RZ and it clears the soft top. There is no in between. The GT3 was designed for a hard top that was promised to us by a vendor about a year ago. That vendor changed their mind and left us without a hard top. So my personal car is a permanent roadster.
Hopefully they or a new vendor will step up and build a fully sealed OEM style HT so we can has weather protection.
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That's right, I forgot about those other features (it doesn't have rear parking sensors BTW unless you spec them for extra $$). I should know that stuff, I sell these things after all

The swivelly headlights are freaking sweet. However, they don't make as much of a difference on the Miata because you get LED's even without the swiveling.
What is "rear cross traffic alert" then? I assumed that was back-up sensors.

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He did, it's called the RZ and it clears the soft top. There is no in between. The GT3 was designed for a hard top that was promised to us by a vendor about a year ago. That vendor changed their mind and left us without a hard top. So my personal car is a permanent roadster.
Hopefully they or a new vendor will step up and build a fully sealed OEM style HT so we can has weather protection.
Good to know! RZ it is.
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Old 10-12-2016, 10:49 PM   #2984
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Rear cross traffic alert lets you know if something is coming from the side. it doesn't help with parking proximity.
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I wouldn't base my decision on which trim level to buy on the swiveling headlights but yeah, they are freakin sweet. Personally, I like the leather heated seats and headrest speakers. The sound system is surprisingly good in the GT. Not sure if the club has the same sound. Nav in any car ever made is pointless when Maps will always own it. One of may favorite features is bluetooth so clear yo can drive on the highway with the top down and make/receive voice activated calls and still hear everything. Some serious propeller head stuff happening to make that possible.
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The GT also adds
-auto climate control
-auto headlights that also turn with the steering wheel
-auto windshield wipers
-lane departure, blind spot, and back up sensors
-heated side mirrors
-auto dimming rear view mirrors

All that stuff is cool, but the only real thing that would be a big deal to me is the turning headlights. That would be extremely useful for all the back roads I like to drive at night. As long as the difference is even noticeable. Has anybody driven both and noticed a difference?

Plus the Club comes with the blind spot monitoring for 2017. I also keep forgetting to say that the 2017 models will have the new transmission parts that Mazda is quietly substituting in now.
I used to ride a naked bike where the headlight turned with the fork as opposed to being on the fairing. It was super nice.
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Old 10-12-2016, 11:11 PM   #2987
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Club has same sound system as GT. The sound system is really, really good, as you know from driving your GT Emilio. Really good for an OEM system.
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I wouldn't base my decision on which trim level to buy on the swiveling headlights but yeah, they are freakin sweet. Personally, I like the leather heated seats and headrest speakers. The sound system is surprisingly good in the GT. Not sure if the club has the same sound. Nav in any car ever made is pointless when Maps will always own it. One of may favorite features is bluetooth so clear yo can drive on the highway with the top down and make/receive voice activated calls and still hear everything. Some serious propeller head stuff happening to make that possible.
The Club and GT have all the same sound/speaker arrangement. I also agree in-car nav is pointless. I have always used my phone for nav and there are already brackets to put your phone right below the radio screen.
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Old 10-13-2016, 12:03 AM   #2989
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I forget that the Club can be purchased without the Bremboz and maybe BBS wheels. In such case it makes sense to get the LSD in exchange for the leather if you prefer cloth.
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Old 10-13-2016, 12:09 AM   #2990
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yep.

The Club with the Brembo/BBS package is an utter ripoff IMO. Much better to get it without and put on wilwoods and 6ULs.
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He did, it's called the RZ and it clears the soft top. There is no in between. The GT3 was designed for a hard top that was promised to us by a vendor about a year ago. That vendor changed their mind and left us without a hard top. So my personal car is a permanent roadster.
Hopefully they or a new vendor will step up and build a fully sealed OEM style HT so we can has weather protection.
When I talked with Dave about this (I'm sure you have as well) I tried my best to push him to do a version that would work with the GT3. He was really set on the aesthetic he wanted to achieve with the street top which conflicted with the dimensions of the GT3, and at least at this time he didn't want to invest in a third design/mold for an ND hardtop when one of the two he's already developed will clear the GT3... IOW, AFAIK you could have a hardtop on your car tomorrow that would clear the GT3 - it's the same one that is going on all the GCCs, it just doesn't have quite the sleek shape of the street top.
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Old 10-13-2016, 09:40 AM   #2992
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The GT also adds
-auto climate control
-auto headlights that also turn with the steering wheel
-auto windshield wipers
-lane departure, blind spot, and back up sensors
-heated side mirrors
-auto dimming rear view mirrors
-auto climate control
This is actually a pretty **** feature to those that don't have it (crap, I mean it's a "great" feature - sorry about the locker room talk). Unless of course my wife is driving - she will forever not get the point of climate control. If she's cold, it will always be set to the highest temperature, if she's warm, it will forever be set to max cold. The end result is just about the same as a very large percentage of women who I have ridden with, regardless of a climate control option, whose blower vents are always set to "boeing 747" and are never actually comfortable in their car. My value: $400

-auto headlights
Exceptionally convenient. I have never "forgotten" to turn the headlights off in my Tundra or 535i. My value: $150

-turning headlights
A nice novelty. My Value: $0

-auto windshield wipers
Also terribly convenient. After experiencing their use on the 535, I'm dissapointed they were not included in my Tundra. My Value $100

-lane departure, blind spot, and back up sensors
No experience with lane departure - I suspect it would be useful to those who regularly drive distracted, as well as to motorists who regularly find themselves behind drivers who regurlarly drive distracted. My Value: UNK
Blind spot - Nice to have, but again, a feature for drivers who regularly drive distracted. I have them on my Tundra, and I have never had them warn me of a vehicle in my blind spot which I did not already know was there. My Value: $50
Back-up sensors - Probably not nearly as useful on a very compact 2-seat car. On the Tundra, they are indespensible. My Value (In Miata): $50
Someone mentioned RCTA (Rear Cross Traffic Alert) - RCTA will annoy you 100 times for every time it saves your bacon, but for that one time it saves your bacon from an inattentive or careless driver, it's a nice feature to have. My Value: $50

-heated side mirrors
In areas that see frost or heavy overnight dew, this is a very nice luxury to have. My Value: $400

-auto dimming rear view mirrors
I think the Miata is the only car I've owned in the last 15 years that didn't have auto dimming rear view mirrors. My Value $50

Not mentioned in this post:
My value of heated leather is $800-$1400
My value of in car nav is $150

Other luxuries I have experienced:
I'd pay $400 for a heated steering wheel, and $200 for seats that were also vented.
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But what about cooled cup holders?
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Old 10-13-2016, 11:19 AM   #2994
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I forget that the Club can be purchased without the Bremboz and maybe BBS wheels. In such case it makes sense to get the LSD in exchange for the leather if you prefer cloth.
Yeah, Club is 28,600 base and the Brembo/BBS package is 3400.

I forgot what invoice is on a GT, but a year after release (holy crap I've had this car for over a year) people should be able to bully the dealers around a bit to easily walk away with an ND for $26k OTD for a non Sport model.
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Old 10-13-2016, 11:27 AM   #2995
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Lots of ultra-low-mileage cars hitting the used market at $22-$24k already.

Waiting until they drop to about $10k, and will probably pick one up. Not concerned about the radio, electronic nannies (so long as I can disable them), or any of the other M.net stuff.
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Vented seats would be nice but probably add too much weight. My new Ram 3500 dually has vented seats that get their flow from the A/C, fantastic.
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I still want a Sport. Arrrrrrrhhhhh!!!!!

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-auto climate control . . . it's a "great" feature . . . [u]nless of course my wife is driving.
I LOL'd. Truth.
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Old 10-13-2016, 11:38 AM   #2998
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Wow, thought it was just my gf who did that. thats hilarious.
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I have literally never had any of these things in any car I've ever owned.

Well, the headlight on my bike turns with the bars, does that count?
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Wow, thought it was just my gf who did that. thats hilarious.
The struggle is real.

I've almost got my wife trained on how to properly use automatic climate control in the minivan. Almost...
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